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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:09 pm
by mr wilks
IRD wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:42 pm
Hi kis
I found some nice looking brand new18 inch wheels from a 135i M Sport. They are model 436 M with part numbers 36117845870 front and 5871 back. The ET for the front is 45 and the back is 52. Do you reckon they would fit?
Kind Regards
You would need 20mm spacers for rear & 15mm for front to make them sit right on a Z4 E85 / the 436s are only 7.5j front & 8j rears so that along with the offset would leave them sat well in if you don't
Aside to that i think a forum member has a set of those for sale
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:41 pm
by paddy wright
107s are imho the seat wheel for the pre facelift z.
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:19 pm
by IRD
Hi Mr Wilks/Paddy
Thank you for the continuing help in finding some wheels. It is a bit more complicated than I originally thought. I am just getting the hang of the site and tonight found the items 'for sale' section. Shame I hadn't looked earlier, I missed a good set of 108s. I will keep looking and hopefully you won't mind giving me advice.
Paddy I'll have a look at some 107s to see what they look like. Diverging, I note you are a primary head. I am retired now and have been for a long time but I did the job for over 20 years. Mind you I think it is considerably harder these days.
Mr Wilks your expertise is really appreciated.
Kind Regards
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:22 pm
by kis
Hiya mate. 45 will fit just fine. The 52 is unusual as the wheel will sit further inside? 2mm shouldn't cause any issues... but then never say never! Could easily add some spacers (10mm front and 20mm back). Which would make it all look much more flush.
So in short yes they will fit, but you
may need spacers to push the wheels out and make them fit better!
To be honest spacers should be on the mod list already as a bog standard basic. So go for it if you're getting a good deal
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:31 pm
by IRD
Thanks kis. I have just posted to Mr Wilks and Paddy thanking them for their help too. I only just found the 'for sale' area of the site tonight. Shame really as I missed a good set of 108s. Paddy recommends 107s so I'll have a look at pictures of them too. The 436s are brand new and have been taken off a new car which had an upgrade. The downside is that they are equipped with runflats.
Cheers
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:40 pm
by mr wilks
kis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:22 pm
Hiya mate. 45 will fit just fine. The 52 is unusual as the wheel will sit further inside? 2mm shouldn't cause any issues... but then never say never! Could easily add some spacers (10mm front and 20mm back). Which would make it all look much more flush.
So in short yes they will fit, but you
may need spacers to push the wheels out and make them fit better!
To be honest spacers should be on the mod list already as a bog standard basic. So go for it if you're getting a good deal
Spacers should indeed be a" must have" on all OEM staggered et 47 / et 50 18s as they already sit in the arch to some tune
Random pic of the web shows that off
Technically the 436 wheels will fit straight on but would sit 4mm further in on front / 8mm further in on rear so buying them to improve the cars looks would only work with spacers , i wouldn't consider them without in all honesty
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:33 am
by kis
I thought the fronts would sit slightly further out? Not in?
But in any regards, agreed that spacers is pretty much a must even with 107 or 108 wheels!
Que style 224 which don't need any spacers
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:29 am
by kis
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:56 am
by MACK
IRD wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:19 pm
Hi Mr Wilks/Paddy
Thank you for the continuing help in finding some wheels. It is a bit more complicated than I originally thought. I am just getting the hang of the site and tonight found the items 'for sale' section. Shame I hadn't looked earlier, I missed a good set of 108s. I will keep looking and hopefully you won't mind giving me advice.
Paddy I'll have a look at some 107s to see what they look like. Diverging, I note you are a primary head. I am retired now and have been for a long time but I did the job for over 20 years. Mind you I think it is considerably harder these days.
Mr Wilks your expertise is really appreciated.
Kind Regards
You might find this site useful
http://www.willtheyfit.com/
it will tell you what effect a different wheel/tyre/offset size will have on your car.
as long as you stick to a BMW wheel or one with the correct PCD which is explained in this link
http://www.wheelfitment.eu/what-is-the-PCD.html
you will be fine!
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:19 am
by paddy wright
IRD wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:19 pm
Hi Mr Wilks/Paddy
Thank you for the continuing help in finding some wheels. It is a bit more complicated than I originally thought. I am just getting the hang of the site and tonight found the items 'for sale' section. Shame I hadn't looked earlier, I missed a good set of 108s. I will keep looking and hopefully you won't mind giving me advice.
Paddy I'll have a look at some 107s to see what they look like. Diverging, I note you are a primary head. I am retired now and have been for a long time but I did the job for over 20 years. Mind you I think it is considerably harder these days.
Mr Wilks your expertise is really appreciated.
Kind Regards
Hi IRD,
Yes, best job in the world- just wish the politicians would keep their noses out and let us get on with doing what we love.
Here's my car on 107s- I'm slight biased but love these as they were designed alongside the car, as were 108s but I don't think the 108s have aged as well.
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:57 pm
by IRD
Thank you everybody. Lots more information to process. Clearly spacers are a must, no matter which wheels I eventually end up with and no runflat tyres. The 16 inch wheels that the car came with already have spacers on them, although I'm not sure what size they are. They don't look too bad, just a bit on the small size for the car.
I've placed an ad in the 'for sale' forum. Hopefully something suitable will turn up. In truth I would feel happier buying from a forum member than fron eBay or Gumtree.
Kind Regards
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:29 pm
by IRD
Hi Paddy
Did you notice the deliberate error. The word I wanted was 'digressing 'not as I wrote 'diverging'. I can only put it down to age.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:24 pm
by goon
ET 52 is quite recessed, I changed my wheels for an ET 35 and put 15mm spacers on the rear. Try a website called willtheyfit.com and that will give you a guide.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:36 pm
by Neilc
I've just ordered so Yokohama V701's, best grip and fuel rating but cheaper than other brands
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:24 am
by Pabby1980
For me there's only one wheel that looks perfect on the car, and that's the 18', type 108 split rims.
Steve's car on page one of this thread In his signature has them.
It's not that other rims don't look good, but (in my humble opinion) none of them look quite as good as these.