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Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by Pondrew » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:28 pm

When I had mine up at £12k I had no interest whatsoever. Now at £11k the phone hasn't stopped. So I deduce from that £11k is acceptable money for a good 18i.
The one above has good spec, yes, and is very low mileage but I see that at £12k max. Making it nearly eight grand overpriced. There is another one which has been on AT for a good while (private sale). Started at £13,750, now at £12,250 and still on there!
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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Post by matsmith749 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:18 pm

I'm not so sure it's £6k overpriced.

Narrow your search to under 40k miles cars - only a few out there, and the cheapest are older / less well optioned.

I would value it at £17k dealer (with warranty) or about £15.5 private sale.

It's a few years younger than yours Pondy, lower miles, FMDBMW SH, not been messed with, has the auto box, has the nav.
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Post by B21 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:31 pm

Pondrew wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:28 pm When I had mine up at £12k I had no interest whatsoever. Now at £11k the phone hasn't stopped. So I deduce from that £11k is acceptable money for a good 18i.
The one above has good spec, yes, and is very low mileage but I see that at £12k max. Making it nearly eight grand overpriced. There is another one which has been on AT for a good while (private sale). Started at £13,750, now at £12,250 and still on there!
You’ve reached the correct ‘commodity’ pricing :thumbsup:
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Post by Nictrix » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:30 pm

Pondrew wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:28 pm When I had mine up at £12k I had no interest whatsoever. Now at £11k the phone hasn't stopped. So I deduce from that £11k is acceptable money for a good 18i.
The one above has good spec, yes, and is very low mileage but I see that at £12k max. Making it nearly eight grand overpriced. There is another one which has been on AT for a good while (private sale). Started at £13,750, now at £12,250 and still on there!
It does seem a little overpriced but its worth a bit more than a grand more than yours.
Its 3 years newer, slightly less miles and has idrive
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Post by Silverstar » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:03 pm

Pondrew wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:28 pm When I had mine up at £12k I had no interest whatsoever. Now at £11k the phone hasn't stopped. So I deduce from that £11k is acceptable money for a good 18i.
The one above has good spec, yes, and is very low mileage but I see that at £12k max. Making it nearly eight grand overpriced. There is another one which has been on AT for a good while (private sale). Started at £13,750, now at £12,250 and still on there!
The calls you are getting, is that from eBay or have you got it up on AT now as well?
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Post by Pondrew » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:45 pm

Silverstar wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:03 pm The calls you are getting, is that from eBay or have you got it up on AT now as well?
eBay. Someone was supposed to come and look tomorrow but he cried off, for whatever reason!

I have a few people who were waiting on him, as he contacted first. We shall see.
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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Post by Pondrew » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:47 pm

Nictrix wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:30 pm It does seem a little overpriced but its worth a bit more than a grand more than yours.
Its 3 years newer, slightly less miles and has idrive
Yes fair enough. Forgot about it being a very late one. Not sure whether an Auto commands a premium in the N20?
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Post by Nictrix » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:57 pm

Pondrew wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:47 pm
Nictrix wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:30 pm It does seem a little overpriced but its worth a bit more than a grand more than yours.
Its 3 years newer, slightly less miles and has idrive
Yes fair enough. Forgot about it being a very late one. Not sure whether an Auto commands a premium in the N20?
What I did notice in the pics though was there was no auto start/stop button. Was this something that was done away with on later models or did autos not have it.
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Post by B21 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:47 pm

Pondrew wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:47 pm
Nictrix wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:30 pm It does seem a little overpriced but its worth a bit more than a grand more than yours.
Its 3 years newer, slightly less miles and has idrive
Yes fair enough. Forgot about it being a very late one. Not sure whether an Auto commands a premium in the N20?
Auto was quite a bit more expensive so yes it commands a premium.
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Post by B21 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:49 pm

Nictrix wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:57 pm
Pondrew wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:47 pm
Nictrix wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:30 pm It does seem a little overpriced but its worth a bit more than a grand more than yours.
Its 3 years newer, slightly less miles and has idrive
Yes fair enough. Forgot about it being a very late one. Not sure whether an Auto commands a premium in the N20?
What I did notice in the pics though was there was no auto start/stop button. Was this something that was done away with on later models or did autos not have it.
AFAIK the stop start on the ZF8HP required a different variant of box which I believe was never fitted to the E89…
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Post by Silverstar » Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:55 am

Pondrew wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:47 pm
Nictrix wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:30 pm It does seem a little overpriced but its worth a bit more than a grand more than yours.
Its 3 years newer, slightly less miles and has idrive
Yes fair enough. Forgot about it being a very late one. Not sure whether an Auto commands a premium in the N20?
Autos always commands a small premium on most premium / luxury cars, unless it’s something like a 911 GT3 or the like.
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Post by matsmith749 » Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:37 am

Idrive is the nav/multimedia system.

It also commands a premium - from memory it was something silly like £2k extra when originally speccing up the car.

Obviously not worth £2k more now, but likely 'something'
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Post by Pondrew » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:19 am

Well things must have changed over the last 30 years!
I was always under the impression that 'optional extras' are worth nothing on a used car; only potentially make it easier to sell against an equivalent without them. The buyer's mindset of getting something for nothing.

I still don't understand the demand for the i-drive on the E89. They are 2009 technology and don't think they were ever upgraded during the life cycle of the car. I could be wrong (it happens occasionally!) IMHO they make the cars seem really old now. One of main things I didn't like about my 2008 E92 was the antiquated i-drive.
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

F31 320i. Good car.
E89 20i Now fully dried
Z3 'free litre'. Project and a half. Complicated!
Mazda3 sold
Tatty old R56 Mini Cooper. Money pit!

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Post by inkey$ » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:37 am

Isn't the old i-Drive super easy and relatively cheap to add aftermarket CarPlay/Android Auto too though?
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Post by B21 » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:40 am

Pondrew wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:19 am Well things must have changed over the last 30 years!
I was always under the impression that 'optional extras' are worth nothing on a used car; only potentially make it easier to sell against an equivalent without them. The buyer's mindset of getting something for nothing.

I still don't understand the demand for the i-drive on the E89. They are 2009 technology and don't think they were ever upgraded during the life cycle of the car. I could be wrong (it happens occasionally!) IMHO they make the cars seem really old now. One of main things I didn't like about my 2008 E92 was the antiquated i-drive.
I think for those who have some understanding of these things some options as you suggest are not worth much..

Interior trim apart from maybe fabric to leather change
Comfort packs
Service / connectivity packs /apps
Auto light packages
Heated steering wheel
Run flat tyres


Others that have a value
Modern auto / DSG box
iDrive especially now with easy Carplay upgrades
19" alloys
MSport packaging / styling
Premium audio


Those that have value but probably not recognised at the time
PDC
Extended bluetooth
Wind diffuser
Heated seats
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