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Post by darich » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:06 am

Story popped up on a social media feed about a Lotus Carlton. So I checked Autotrader and there are 2 for sale. Some thing like 73 and 82k.
Out of interest, I decided to visit a comparison website and ran an insurance quote for one.

Flabbergasted at the price.....around £270 fully comp, sitting on my drive with Cat 1 security and mileage limited to 5k, no commuting
That's half the price of my daily driver, an Audi Q5 with 10k miles a year including commuting. All other details the same.

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Post by Pondrew » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:34 am

Lotus Carlton was one of my dream cars back in the day. I had a work colleague that owned one. It wasn't a great car but boy was it quick! :)

Edit: just looked on AT....HOW MUCH?? :o
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Post by buzyg » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:37 am

Older classic cars are often cheaper to insure. Not certain why. Perhaps because the owners look after them and don't park them in supermarket car parks often. :thumbsup:
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Post by Nictrix » Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:03 pm

Was there not a famous story about a carlton in a police chase
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Post by pvr » Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:33 pm

Nictrix wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:03 pm Was there not a famous story about a carlton in a police chase
Yep - that they could only stop it if they (The Carlton) let it be caught
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Post by jenniferlouise » Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:58 pm

Now I’m dreaming too../ what a car!! I’d take a LC over a Cossie. Please don’t shoot me

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Post by Argyll Andy » Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:08 pm

Nictrix wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:03 pm Was there not a famous story about a carlton in a police chase

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    Post by Pondrew » Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:53 pm

    pvr wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:33 pm Yep - that they could only stop it if they (The Carlton) let it be caught
    It was famous IIRC as the first four door car to be able to reach 170mph. And could have been the last, as the Germans all restricted theirs to 155 ever since.
    The only other family car that can do that sort of top speed is a rented diesel Astra!
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    Post by True-Blue » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:18 pm

    There’s two of these that go to a local classic car meet, one in much better condition than the other…. There’s no way I’d want to be doing anywhere near 170mph in either of them :o
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    Post by pvr » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:35 pm

    Pondrew wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:53 pm
    pvr wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:33 pm Yep - that they could only stop it if they (The Carlton) let it be caught
    It was famous IIRC as the first four door car to be able to reach 170mph. And could have been the last, as the Germans all restricted theirs to 155 ever since.
    The only other family car that can do that sort of top speed is a rented diesel Astra!
    The Alpina models are not restricted though, and neither are the Porsches :P
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    Post by mmm-five » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:54 pm

    I almost had an e34 Alpina B10 Bi-Turbo back in the day...but it was LHD and the insurance was astronomical compared to an e34 M5.

    I''ll have to dig out the magazine articles of the day, but I think it was slightly slower to accelerate than the Lotus Carlton, but had a slightly higher top speed (officially by about 3mph, unless you overrode the Carlton's official limiter)...and would probably handle the high-speed cruising without bits falling off.
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    Post by Mr Tidy » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:10 pm

    I always wanted a Lotus Carlton. Especially after all the stories in the press saying how irresponsible it was of Vauxhall for putting them on sale!

    I've only ever seen 3, first time was one going the opposite way in 1991 on the A417. Then I never saw another until I went to a Pistonheads event in 2014 and someone turned up with a real stunner, then in 2018 my sister went to look at a Fiat 500 at Frosts in Shoreham which used to be a Vauxhall main agent back in the 80s and there was one in the showroom that Mr Frost had kept hold of that also looked mint.

    I imagine parts might be hard to find, but at least it's nice to know that if I get a Euromillions win insurance won't be a problem!

    Slightly back to reality I was surprised when I got my MC insurance was cheaper than for my 3.0Si. :?
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    Post by TitanTim » Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:49 pm

    Amazing what some cars are fetching now. A neighbour has a 1995 Ford Escort RS Cosworth 4x4 in the RS Blue with some 25k on the clock. Moved into the house in the same year and I think I've see it come out of the garage less that 10 times in all those years. One the same spec and colour with 23k sold at auction recently for 70k :o

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    Post by Mr Tidy » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:05 pm

    Funny you say that Tim.

    When I saw that stunning Lotus Carlton it was parked near a red Escort Cosworth with an Alfa GTV between them. Some of my all time favourite cars together. :wub:
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    Post by TitanTim » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:09 pm

    Mr Tidy wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:05 pm Funny you say that Tim.

    When I saw that stunning Lotus Carlton it was parked near a red Escort Cosworth with an Alfa GTV between them. Some of my all time favourite cars together. :wub:

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