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Post by Mr Tidy » Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:37 am

What are these about? :?

You push the pedal far enough to make it work even if others may push it further, but with no actual benefit. :?
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Post by Meds » Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:06 am

Some short legged folk have issues.
They reduce/remove the final 20-30mm of clutch pedal travel. That area is usually dead space with no clutch engagement happening.
It doesnt sound a lot, but when our little legs are already at nearly full extension, that extra bit of dead travel is uncomfortable and pointless.
Especially if you have long arms and short legs.

They do not alter the bite point or anything like that. They just take up the slack at the end of the travel.

I've tried on and off for many years to drive with the clutch pedal and foot 'floating' before the firewall, but it doesnt work for me..
If I push the clutch down, I want the pedal to stop on the firewall.
Mr Tidy wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:37 am What are these about? :?

You push the pedal far enough to make it work even if others may push it further, but with no actual benefit. :?
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Post by coldel » Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:24 am

MikeyH wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:30 pm I find that if I put the seat to the correct position for the brake and accelerator I need to twist my hip to push the clutch pedal far enough to change gear. Mine seems to go a long way to the floor with no dead space. The garage told me that there is nothing wrong with the clutch. I would not be able to fit something 30mm under the pedal, there’s no room? :thumbsdown:
That is concerning! Bite point shouldnt be that low down the travel :?
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Post by smorris_12 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:57 pm

Probably had a replacement clutch at some point and either it's a totally different setup or they buggered up the auto-adjuster fitting sequence.
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Post by MikeyH » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:07 pm

It’s only done 68000 miles and the previous long term owner left 8 years or receipts and nothing about clutch repairs. Wouldn’t it be easier to fit an extra pad over the clutch pedal somehow?
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Post by coldel » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:10 pm

Maybe your clutch had a hard life and is on the way out?

Its obviously easier to fit the clutch bump behind the pedal, it only takes a couple of minutes. Anything attached to the pedal itself does run the risk of coming off during use unless you permanently bolt it on which would mean modifying the pedal.
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Clutch pedal bump stop

Post by Meds » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:43 pm

Here's my effort:

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A cut down rubber door stop, epoxy'd to the existing bump stop. In total it's about 25mm.
Simple and works perfectly. Removing that awkward over extension, us short guys get because the clutch pedal travel is quite long near the end.
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Post by enuff_zed » Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:40 pm

I am another one in the camp of; surely you learn your car’s characteristics and only push the pedal as far as needed?
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Post by salfer » Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:55 pm

enuff_zed wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:40 pm I am another one in the camp of; surely you learn your car’s characteristics and only push the pedal as far as needed?
Totally agree. Every car is different and you get used to the idiosyncrasies (if they exist) and drive accordingly. I have an old 1970 911S - change slowly, 88 205 Pug GTi again slow. My BMW 1M and E86M are modern by comparison and can be changed as fast or as slowly as required.

TBH, I have no idea why there are so many posts complaining about the gear change in our E86/86 M cars…I love it.

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Post by MikeyH » Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:11 pm

salfer wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:55 pm
enuff_zed wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:40 pm I am another one in the camp of; surely you learn your car’s characteristics and only push the pedal as far as needed?
Totally agree. Every car is different and you get used to the idiosyncrasies (if they exist) and drive accordingly. I have an old 1970 911S - change slowly, 88 205 Pug GTi again slow. My BMW 1M and E86M are modern by comparison and can be changed as fast or as slowly as required.

TBH, I have no idea why there are so many posts complaining about the gear change in our E86/86 M cars…I love it.
Yes, mine is only the 5 speed box but dropping down from 5th to 3rd at roundabouts etc is a bliss to do :thumbsup:
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Post by enuff_zed » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:06 pm

MikeyH wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:11 pm
salfer wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:55 pm
enuff_zed wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:40 pm I am another one in the camp of; surely you learn your car’s characteristics and only push the pedal as far as needed?
Totally agree. Every car is different and you get used to the idiosyncrasies (if they exist) and drive accordingly. I have an old 1970 911S - change slowly, 88 205 Pug GTi again slow. My BMW 1M and E86M are modern by comparison and can be changed as fast or as slowly as required.

TBH, I have no idea why there are so many posts complaining about the gear change in our E86/86 M cars…I love it.
Yes, mine is only the 5 speed box but dropping down from 5th to 3rd at roundabouts etc is a bliss to do :thumbsup:
I currently have a rescued 2.2 daily. I love it! Best gear change of any Z4 I've had. And being just a 5-speed with a relatively close set of ratios it is a brilliant back road car. Don't think the clutch pedal has ever been anywhere near the stop.
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Post by Meds » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:12 pm

When you guys operate the clutch, or sit in neutral in traffic, do you press the clutch pedal down to the bulkhead hard stop. Or do you 'float' the pedal in mid travel?
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Post by enuff_zed » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:46 pm

I operate it to the point I know is sufficient to disengage the clutch.
I don’t sit with it down in traffic. If it’s in neutral you don’t need the clutch pedal
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Post by mmm-five » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:53 pm

enuff_zed wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:46 pm I operate it to the point I know is sufficient to disengage the clutch.
I don’t sit with it down in traffic. If it’s in neutral you don’t need the clutch pedal
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Post by Meds » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:55 pm

OK I'll rephrase. I didn't mean neutral. Wrong choice of words.
I meant if you're in stop start traffic, not stopped for long enough to knock it over in neutral and release the clutch.

You're able to hover/float the clutch pedal just past the bite point, but not pressing against the bulkhead.?

Or getting ready to pull away, your pedal is between the bite point and the bulkhead ? In no man's land.?
Or do you press it against the bulkhead at the firm stop?
Changing gear, you don't press against the firm stop?
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