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Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by PointedMarlin » Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:29 am

Hi all,

Not driven my e89 a long distance in months & took it out yesterday for 100 miles or so.

I’ve woken this morning with a really bad stiff back, whilst historically this isn’t unusual it’s the first time it’s happened in months … coincidence?

I’m running 326’s & run flats so is that my problem or is it ultimately the driving position that’s screwing me?

Thoughts?

I’ve never given it much thought before but remember Ryan Giggs having hamstring problems as a result of his car so wondering if any of you have experienced similar or is it all psychological

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Post by Phoenixboy » Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:45 am

run flats certainly wont help the ride quality, but it can sometimes be difficult to get the seat just right, especially after moving it around.
it seems to be a trial and error thing unless you have electric memory seats, or we are just old and never comfy unless were in our armchair....
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Post by B21 » Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:58 am

It does seem that fine adjustment of the position can have a big impact on subsequent back pain…

My pain seems to be ameliorated by shortening the reach to the peddles a little and as much tilt on the seat pan plus a moderate use of the adjustable seat bolster..

I found that also moving the position a little whilst on a longer trip helps to adjust your driving position…electrical adjustable sears helps for that one..

At my age I’ve started using NSAIDs regularly as I have arthritis in my shoulders too and helps me with everyday chores etc..

Not sure if any of those will help you…
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Post by Phoenixboy » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:07 am

B21 wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:58 am It does seem that fine adjustment of the position can have a big impact on subsequent back pain…

My pain seems to be ameliorated by shortening the reach to the peddles a little and as much tilt on the seat pan plus a moderate use of the adjustable seat bolster..

I found that also moving the position a little whilst on a longer trip helps to adjust your driving position…electrical adjustable sears helps for that one..

At my age I’ve started using NSAIDs regularly as I have arthritis in my shoulders too and helps me with everyday chores etc..

Not sure if any of those will help you…
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i agree, small alterations, especially on a longer trip, can help with the comfort.
And as you say, a small change on the various adjustments can make a bit of difference.
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Post by wanderer » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:40 am

Is your car manual or auto?
My wife swore she would not drive an auto but after I bought an automatic Saab she switched over after 10mins and has not looked back.

I think that using the clutch on a regular basis affects the back, knee and sciatica.

My Z4 is auto, with non-runflats and I don't have problems.

That being said, I work at a desk at home all day long.
I found that after moving to a high table and riseable Bar chair type stool I don't have back problems any longer.

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Post by AnubisZed » Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:03 pm

I'm just not sure which one will hurt on any particular day, as I've got a bad back, 2 knackered knees, arthritic left ankle and arthritic left elbow in a manual car! :rofl: :driving: So do I live with it or give up the Zed? To be honest I live with it, as I have no choice, they all hurt driving my wife's Kuga so no advantage in changing cars.
Saying that the seat positioning can make a huge difference. But you can't adjust for getting in and out.
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Post by N4LLY » Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:26 pm

Did 994 miles for the Lake district meet few weeks back.
No problem and i'm in my 60's
I use a situp and beg style of driving, maybe bring your seat position one notch closer to the wheel ?

Those that drive laying down and arms fully stretched, Weird :?
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Post by Christopher72 » Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:47 pm

I don't think the car is the challenge and the real fix has nothing to do with the car. Which stinks because that would be much easier. As we get older and often sedentary we lose fitness and health. After a surgery on my Achilles, I was on my arse for a year and went through a lot of new pain associated with degradation of ability, including back pain that was excruciating.... all of the cushions in the world did nothing. The muscles had atrophied.
Doctor recommended taking up an active sport... something to push me into a regimented recovery that i would enjoy. I took up martial arts at 49. After several months of even more muscle and tendon pain my body had built back up primary and support muscle fitness. My back pain disappeared, I feel 10 years younger. I still practice and spar twice a week. Life is much better.

My path shared may not be yours, but i would recommend to find something that pushes you towards better fitness that would improve your core muscles and reduce your back pain. If anything is hard to do... like squatting down or bending over, you need to do much more of it. The Get Busy Livin... model. Best of luck.
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Post by Ole gits rule » Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:04 pm

I had back issues when I first had my zed,15 minutes and agony, took a little bot of messing but got the seat where I had no issues with my back, my god the manual gearbox killed my knees but think that was age related more than the car.

The back pain can be removed but it takes some messing to get it right
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Post by Mr Tidy » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:11 pm

N4LLY wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:26 pm Did 994 miles for the Lake district meet few weeks back.
No problem and i'm in my 60's
I use a situp and beg style of driving, maybe bring your seat position one notch closer to the wheel ?

Those that drive laying down and arms fully stretched, Weird
I'm also 60+ but I only did 877 miles that weekend!

No back problems at all but I did find it easier to make small adjustments to the seat with electric adjustment than in my 3 Series with manual adjustment - but I've finally got that sorted too.

Like you I also wonder why some people like being reclined when they drive. :?
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Post by MikeyH » Sun Jul 30, 2023 12:24 am

Okay so I have an E85 and have always moaned about the seats to the point of almost getting more padding added. Mine are the sports seats and having adjusted them per what a fellow member suggested ie lift the front squab up and put the back more straight I’m finding them okay and back pain has gone. Perhaps as has been said play with the adjustments. Hope you can sort this out because back pain is awful. :thumbsup:
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Post by flybobbie » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:58 am

Took my body or should say right leg a year to get used to the driving position.
Even now 10 years on the steering wheel position gives me arm wrist ache.
I couldn't do a long trip say 50 miles until recently i changed some suspension parts to make car more stable.
It's ok for my daily drive of 14 miles round trip.
Also no lumber support, my old Peugeot 106 had adjustable lumber support for goodness sake..

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Post by flybobbie » Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:02 am

B21 wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:58 am It does seem that fine adjustment of the position can have a big impact on subsequent back pain…

My pain seems to be ameliorated by shortening the reach to the peddles a little and as much tilt on the seat pan plus a moderate use of the adjustable seat bolster..

I found that also moving the position a little whilst on a longer trip helps to adjust your driving position…electrical adjustable sears helps for that one..

At my age I’ve started using NSAIDs regularly as I have arthritis in my shoulders too and helps me with everyday chores etc..

Not sure if any of those will help you…
Be careful taking Nsaids, i took for a week due back and leg ache, had heart attack. Never again taking naproxin.

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Post by craigdm » Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:29 pm

Swapped my 19" 326 with run flats for 18" and non-run flats and it's the best change I've ever made to a car.

I was on the verge of selling it until the change.
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Post by NS66 » Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:45 pm

I am 57 and have persistent back issues - getting old is no fun!!
not long done 700 trip - 4 days north wales and find the Z4 E85 so comfortably ( Sports seats / no runflats ). Much more comfortable than my daily EV (yuk!)
Getting in and out takes its toll mind but once in find it great.

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