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Battery replacement, BMW or?
- ronk
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Battery replacement, BMW or?
No thanks!
You don't stop playing when you get old - You get old when you stop playing!
So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with.
So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with.
- TitanTim
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Battery replacement, BMW or?
Well low battery warning hasn't reappeared so all seems good at the moment fingers crossed, all seemed a bit odd. Might just be a coincidence but I've always had a P3 dash gauge plugged into the ODBC port which powers off when the car goes to sleep. I've kept it unplugged the past few days and just wandering if somehow it's been drawing power. I can't see how that's possible once the car shuts down.
Cars booked in on 17th July for its MOT and brake fluid so will see how it goes until then.
Thanks for the replies.
Tim.
Cars booked in on 17th July for its MOT and brake fluid so will see how it goes until then.
Thanks for the replies.
Tim.
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AFAIK OBD port never ever powers off
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Battery replacement, BMW or?
I put an old MR2 battery in the 35i 4 months ago and no issues....starts on the button after 2 weeks regularly of no use...
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Thanks for that, strange as when I switch the engine off the Gauge display powers off, I think it powers off when things like ancillaries/lighter socket/USB/dashcam etc also power off, I didn't realise the ODB port still remains live. I might test it and leave the gauge plugged in again and see if the battery issue reappears. I've had the same gauge plugged in since the car was new in 2016 and never had any issue
Tim.
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Does the E89 not need codeing for a new battery John? not sure what happens if you put an old battery in. I understand if its a new battery you need tell the car its a new battery so it regulates how its charged otherwise it will think it still has the old battery and increase the charge potentially coooking the new battery shortening its life.
With my old Z3 new battery went in and away you went, no coding nonsense
Tim.
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I don't know tbh Tim....battery failed on the 35i after lack of use, all I had to hand was the MR2 one so I put that in to get it going and not bothered doing anything else since as it works fine....TitanTim wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:27 pmDoes the E89 not need codeing for a new battery John? not sure what happens if you put an old battery in. I understand if its a new battery you need tell the car its a new battery so it regulates how its charged otherwise it will think it still has the old battery and increase the charge potentially coooking the new battery shortening its life.
With my old Z3 new battery went in and away you went, no coding nonsense
Tim.
M roady...OEM CSL’s, strut brace, Remus back boxes, ZHP
MR2 MK 2
E89 35i project car...mapped 365bhp, M4 stoppers & wheels, KWV3’s, H&R front ARB, M3 front arms, strut brace Eisenmann cat back race exhaust, VRSF downpipes inbound
E89 35is
G29
MR2 MK 2
E89 35i project car...mapped 365bhp, M4 stoppers & wheels, KWV3’s, H&R front ARB, M3 front arms, strut brace Eisenmann cat back race exhaust, VRSF downpipes inbound
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Various circuits go to sleep..so peoples associate switching ignition on to OBD on..not so..TitanTim wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:22 pmThanks for that, strange as when I switch the engine off the Gauge display powers off, I think it powers off when things like ancillaries/lighter socket/USB/dashcam etc also power off, I didn't realise the ODB port still remains live. I might test it and leave the gauge plugged in again and see if the battery issue reappears. I've had the same gauge plugged in since the car was new in 2016 and never had any issue
Tim.
It maybe that not related or maybe related some circuits are not going to sleep when they should..I’ve got a faulty comfort access circuit that’s tending live even with car locked..
We choose to go to on with this endeavour at this time and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard…
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Primary reading for registration and coding..two separate issues is on the one hand far to let ancillary circuits like audio before switching them off to ensure battery start under the worse circumstances and then how hard and to what level to charge the battery especially under regenerative braking..TitanTim wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:27 pmDoes the E89 not need codeing for a new battery John? not sure what happens if you put an old battery in. I understand if its a new battery you need tell the car its a new battery so it regulates how its charged otherwise it will think it still has the old battery and increase the charge potentially coooking the new battery shortening its life.
With my old Z3 new battery went in and away you went, no coding nonsense
Tim.
Of course it will work without coding / registration but you are unlikely to see the 10 year battery lives that the OE battery often shows..when it’s done properly…
We choose to go to on with this endeavour at this time and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard…
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These cars are so sensitive to voltage changes.
Get the right spec battery and just make sure it’s coded properly. I have a Carly dongle that can do it apparently, but I have never done it myself. Can’t be that difficult!
Get the right spec battery and just make sure it’s coded properly. I have a Carly dongle that can do it apparently, but I have never done it myself. Can’t be that difficult!
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Battery replacement, BMW or?
Thanks for that, yes I was thinking possibly a faulty module somewhere not shutting down and possibly drawing on the battery but who knows really without looking at any fault codes. I do have comfort access but appears to be working OK. I understand one possible giveaway it's faulty is a warm door handle once the car is locked but unsure if really a give away there is an issue.B21 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:12 pmVarious circuits go to sleep..so peoples associate switching ignition on to OBD on..not so..TitanTim wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:22 pmThanks for that, strange as when I switch the engine off the Gauge display powers off, I think it powers off when things like ancillaries/lighter socket/USB/dashcam etc also power off, I didn't realise the ODB port still remains live. I might test it and leave the gauge plugged in again and see if the battery issue reappears. I've had the same gauge plugged in since the car was new in 2016 and never had any issue
Tim.
It maybe that not related or maybe related some circuits are not going to sleep when they should..I’ve got a faulty comfort access circuit that’s tending live even with car locked..
Tim.
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Battery replacement, BMW or?
The battery problem has been solved on my 335 Tim
The Techie came out from the BMW breakdown service and plugged his Laptop into the car - It showed that each of the stepper motors on the heating and vent system, there are seven motors, each had 61 faults, and some other bit od witchcraft had 62 faults.
He unplugged the main fan and booked me in at the local dealer an arranged a hire car.
He showed me a "PUMA" BMW speak for documented faults and fixes, which showed chaffed wires. This was the fault and it required partial dashboard and loom removal, then re insulating an re routing.
Apparently four to six hours work - Ive got the warranty plan so only my £250 excess to pay.
They loaned me via Enterprise a well specced 320 D so this years policy has paid dividends.
The Techie came out from the BMW breakdown service and plugged his Laptop into the car - It showed that each of the stepper motors on the heating and vent system, there are seven motors, each had 61 faults, and some other bit od witchcraft had 62 faults.
He unplugged the main fan and booked me in at the local dealer an arranged a hire car.
He showed me a "PUMA" BMW speak for documented faults and fixes, which showed chaffed wires. This was the fault and it required partial dashboard and loom removal, then re insulating an re routing.
Apparently four to six hours work - Ive got the warranty plan so only my £250 excess to pay.
They loaned me via Enterprise a well specced 320 D so this years policy has paid dividends.
You don't stop playing when you get old - You get old when you stop playing!
So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with.
So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with.
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Battery replacement, BMW or?
That's good news Ron, glad you've got to the bottom of the problem, its times like these when you think the extended warranty might just be worth itronk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:41 pm The battery problem has been solved on my 335 Tim
The Techie came out from the BMW breakdown service and plugged his Laptop into the car - It showed that each of the stepper motors on the heating and vent system, there are seven motors, each had 61 faults, and some other bit od witchcraft had 62 faults.
He unplugged the main fan and booked me in at the local dealer an arranged a hire car.
He showed me a "PUMA" BMW speak for documented faults and fixes, which showed chaffed wires. This was the fault and it required partial dashboard and loom removal, then re insulating an re routing.
Apparently four to six hours work - Ive got the warranty plan so only my £250 excess to pay.
They loaned me via Enterprise a well specced 320 D so this years policy has paid dividends.
Wiring seems to be a problem with BMWs over the years, the wiring loom on my Z3 failed where it exited the car into the bootlid and years of opening and closing the boot would fracture the loom. It was known issue and also affected the 3 Series and BMW brought out a repair loom. Think I had the last available loom off BMW when mine failed Alternative fix was to use scotchlocks and patch the broken wires back together.
Not had any further battery issues on the 140i, the car had been in storage for quite a long time so probably didn't like it and threw a paddy
Tim.
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Battery replacement, BMW or?
£250 excess sounds painful ronk.
Makes me glad my BMWs are both teenagers now!
A new battery for my MC was £104.97 delivered from Tayna in April 21, bolted in and connected in minutes with no coding malarkey required.
Makes me glad my BMWs are both teenagers now!
A new battery for my MC was £104.97 delivered from Tayna in April 21, bolted in and connected in minutes with no coding malarkey required.
Coupes because stunning!
Current - Silver Grey MC, Imola Red heated Nappa & carbon trim. Aeros, H & R Coil-overs, 224s, OE Strut brace, Nav, cup-holders, DSP Hi-Fi, pdc, cruise, MFSW, no CDV! E90 330i daily
Gone - Montego Blue
Gone - Ruby Black
Current - Silver Grey MC, Imola Red heated Nappa & carbon trim. Aeros, H & R Coil-overs, 224s, OE Strut brace, Nav, cup-holders, DSP Hi-Fi, pdc, cruise, MFSW, no CDV! E90 330i daily
Gone - Montego Blue
Gone - Ruby Black
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£422 with £250 excess or £770 with £0 excess so I gambled! This year I lost
I hear what you say about the Battery fitting - I think they call it “progress”
You don't stop playing when you get old - You get old when you stop playing!
So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with.
So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with.