Electric car

[Nictrix]

Watched a video today of a guy who purchased a Porsche Taycan a year ago for £120,000.
After being told that it would hold its value well he had a valuation done and Porsche would give him £60,000 for it IF he was trading it for another Porsche. WBAC offered £53,000.
He has potentially lost £67,000 in a year not including servicing (£750 to service what?) and tyres ( that he says goes through quickly due to the weight)
He also reckons that charging using public chargers is not that much cheaper per mile than petrol/diesel. He would go back to a petrol/diesel car if he could but would have to pay £27,000 towards his finance after selling the car as he still owes £80,000 on it.

[MikeyH]

This all explains the difficulty they are having selling to private purchasers at the moment over business and fleet.

[Nanu]

Perhaps a slightly extreme case but one that evidences one of the main issues with EV's that is rarely spoken of. No doubt this will become more of an issue over the coming few years.

[Ole gits rule]

I was looking at an i3 at my local dealer last month, BMW have stopped making them now, however I was more interested in how its made than it being electric, carbon fibre tub and plastic panels and that. Shame they've stopped making it now as I still think it's one the best small electric cars.

I do like Hyundais Ioniq 6 but cost to buy I still think is eye-watering for what they offer.

Only way I would be tempted is vast drop in new cost.

Tim.

We've gone over to the dark side, I no not a porsche. Some quick fag packet maths says it'll save around £1300/£1500 a year on the wife's commute.

Have you switched to a low cost night tariff for charging

[Pondrew]

IMO the 'general public' are looking at EVs to purely be cheaper to own than an ICE car.
PVR's scenario is absolutely typical of why most buy EVs.
The UK Government did buy into that as a temporary incentive, but the 'cheaper to own and run' scenario has never been important to them. The Government are only interested in fulfilling their 'commitment' to their bull$hit 'green' criteria, nothing else.

They never said owning an EV was going to be cheaper than an ICE car in the long run; just gave huge incentives to get the ball rolling. Once that ball is rolling, all those incentives will be withdrawn. They need the revenue from somewhere. The massive hike in electricity costs recently has not helped their goal one bit.

All IMHO obviously!

[pvr]

The only other part I like is as we have so many fuel strikes that at least I have one car I can continue to run without queuing

[Dave1971]

I was looking at an i3 at my local dealer last month, BMW have stopped making them now, however I was more interested in how its made than it being electric, carbon fibre tub and plastic panels and that. Shame they've stopped making it now as I still think it's one the best small electric cars.

I do like Hyundais Ioniq 6 but cost to buy I still think is eye-watering for what they offer.

Only way I would be tempted is vast drop in new cost.

Tim.

We've gone over to the dark side, I no not a porsche. Some quick fag packet maths says it'll save around £1300/£1500 a year on the wife's commute.

Have you switched to a low cost night tariff for charging

Yes. We've switched over to a intelligent octopus. We get a guaranteed 6 hours at cheap rate at night(7.5p per Kw). You also get some other cheap rate hours on an evening when the grid has spare energy to dish out during quiet spells.

[Ole gits rule]

We've gone over to the dark side, I no not a porsche. Some quick fag packet maths says it'll save around £1300/£1500 a year on the wife's commute.

Have you switched to a low cost night tariff for charging

Yes. We've switched over to a intelligent octopus. We get a guaranteed 6 hours at cheap rate at night(7.5p per Kw). You also get some other cheap rate hours on an evening when the grid has spare energy to dish out during quiet spells.

Yep switched over yesterday - just siting newt the charger installer and all good to go - will be running all the appliances (washing Machine / dryer / dishwasher at night as well)

[Dave1971]

Have you switched to a low cost night tariff for charging

Yes. We've switched over to a intelligent octopus. We get a guaranteed 6 hours at cheap rate at night(7.5p per Kw). You also get some other cheap rate hours on an evening when the grid has spare energy to dish out during quiet spells.

Yep switched over yesterday - just siting newt the charger installer and all good to go - will be running all the appliances (washing Machine / dryer / dishwasher at night as well)

We’ll be doing exactly the same.

[ronk]

I’ve got a 4kw solar array and thinking of upgrading with a 12kw Battery pack when I make the swap tü Octopus.

[Nanu]

All these cheaper tariffs will stop when the demand starts increasing.

[pvr]

All these cheaper tariffs will stop when the demand starts increasing.

Or when the Russians are going even more mental

[MikeyH]

All these cheaper tariffs will stop when the demand starts increasing.

Or when the Russians are going even more mental

Or the Chinese

[Nanu]

Or Starmer

[pvr]

Ok, I am suicidal now