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Looks like a beautiful car and exceptionally low mileage. With prices for these at the lowest I think they will ever get, this may appeal to a long term collector? Certainly not the most expensive car of this spec currently on the market, so with a bit of luck........

GLWTS

Nuts wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:56 pm
£18,000

M range territory, of course good luck.
I thought car is to drive it, enjoy it , not keep in garage for low mileage

Yes for most using a vehicle is important but for others owning js equally valid especially as year on year you need to travel further and further to actually enjoy it. Most drives are crap face it. That’s why I use a Fiat 500 as a daily. Because I forwent children I found that over time I created a little fleet of BMWs. Individually these may do up to 2000 miles a year in the summer. This allows the itch to be scratched, the cars remain low mileage and they get taxed/sornd almost monthly. Just as well with new car tax and ZM tax.it also means that their residuals stay firmly in the upper order. Of course they still come down but importantly they will always find a buyer. The trouble with buying a 70000 mile car (lowish price of course) and then doing the total miles I do (10000 miles a year) then in three years your car has hit 100000 and it’s perceived value has fallen off a cliff. This is wrong of course because often high miles cars are much better but that’s the way the buying public think unless they can get the car dirt cheap. Anyway it’s all academic because I imagine at least 70% of E85/86 are leisure cars. So we all do lowish mileage!

Pondrew wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:40 am

Nuts wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:21 am I paid £18k for it recently.

Sorry I don't normally comment on 'for sale' posts

Twice in one thread, I'd call that often.

Dark Diggler wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:06 pm Twice in one thread, I'd call that often.

OK let's go for three then!

Free bump too!

Pondrew wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:40 am

Nuts wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:21 am I paid £18k for it recently.

You have just got to hope there's another like you, then.

Sorry I don't normally comment on 'for sale' posts, but that IMO is absolutely ridiculous money in 2024.

These sort of cars fast becoming modern classics or classics and get harder and harder to find with very low miles, top spec and immaculate condition. Hence will be worth a lot more than your average run of the mill car. People especially collectors who want to add it to their collection and drive it say only 1000 miles a year or so will pay top money for it. As others have said just got to look for the right buyer. Of course this isn’t going to interest someone looking to use the car daily as if the miles creep up the value will soon be written off.

Silverstar wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:48 am

Pondrew wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:40 am

Nuts wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:21 am I paid £18k for it recently.

You have just got to hope there's another like you, then.

Sorry I don't normally comment on 'for sale' posts, but that IMO is absolutely ridiculous money in 2024.

These sort of cars fast becoming modern classics or classics and get harder and harder to find with very low miles, top spec and immaculate condition. Hence will be worth a lot more than your average run of the mill car. People especially collectors who want to add it to their collection and drive it say only 1000 miles a year or so will pay top money for it. As others have said just got to look for the right buyer. Of course this isn’t going to interest someone looking to use the car daily as if the miles creep up the value will soon be written off.

Classic car - first we would have to define what it is. For sure M is.

And you are right, finding right buyer who will appreciate low mileage and immaculate condition is a key in this case (so veryyyy limited number of potential buyers).

Limited buyers - always the case in the classic/modern classic market. It’s not a Nissan Qashqai after all. But there are clearly quite a few as shown by the existence of this forum. But the seller won’t find the buyer here as fora generally cater for the “getting hands dirty bunch” not collectors. Forum bods also like to get a good deal and rarely want to spend money - collectors are happy to as they generally have the resources so to do. Forums even talk down car prices. All car forums seem too. It’s not specific to here. And then they wonder why when prices go up! I am not saying it’s ever going to happen here (prices rising) but these are things I have noticed over the years.

I'd pontificate that anyone looking for a unicorn such as this WOULD be scouring forums.

Scubaregs wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:10 pm I'd pontificate that anyone looking for a unicorn such as this WOULD be scouring forums.

I hate to agree with you but this time you are not talking nonsense

Scubaregs wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:10 pm I'd pontificate that anyone looking for a unicorn such as this WOULD be scouring forums.

It isn't exactly a unicorn, there are a few for sale with similar low mileage. Most are asking similar or more money, though.
Sorry but when private sellers are asking thousands more than the retail trade for a similar car, someone is deluded.

The trade would buy that car for less than £11k (and it's not WBAC). Even being greedy they would put it up for £16k hoping to achieve £15k.

I apologise to the OP as don't wish to undermine the thread. It does only need one person to want it badly enough.

If I really wanted to move it on quicker, I’d stick it up for £16k on AT and take the £2k hit.

For now I’ve put it up on the forum to gauge any interest. Not sure I agree that forum members aren’t the right buyers. I am one after all and I sought this car out buying it from a forum member that approached me via private message responding to my call out to pay good money for a quality car.

I saw a friends e86 today. Same colour, similar spec 20k more miles and yet when you look closely you can see what a normal example gives you. Corrosion, tired paintwork, warn saggy leather. Seeing that reinforced why the premium was worth paying. I.e. I would have spent £3k+ replacing bits and getting things up to my standard.

How many better examples are on the market at a lower price at the moment? I suspect the answer is somewhere below one.

Also OP, good luck with the sale... I can't justify paying anywhere near that much for the Coupe I hope to get soon... but I can assure you that whatever I do end up with will be a clear second best to yours in many ways.

It might have gotten lost in the all the chatter someone mentioned it, but a proper for sale ad would be very good at offsetting any negative comments around the price.

As I say I sold mine for just over 12k on 65k miles and it was also immaculate, in fantastic condition as good as your one from what I can see OP (it was in the last 100 made on an 09 plate also), but I also posted it along with all the history, took photos of it from all 8 angles outside and took photos inside (dont use apps to sharpen/adit them keep them raw so people know what they are getting), I also had an ownership thread on here and on PH that showed dates/times and photos of all the maintenance etc. I did in my ownership. I got a buyer in a couple of weeks, first person to look bought it