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Post by LeeZ4MR » Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:05 pm

Doddsy wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:59 pm https://www.kgfclassiccars.co.uk/vehicles/30221/

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That looks lovely and clean I reckon. :wub:

I'm not bothered that it doesn't have sat nav, but I'd personally want cruise control though.
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Post by pvr » Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:09 pm

So if I had kept my M which I sold with 23600 on it, I would have made a good investment :cry:
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Post by Mr Tidy » Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:43 pm

LeeZ4MR wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:05 pm That looks lovely and clean I reckon.

I'm not bothered that it doesn't have sat nav, but I'd personally want cruise control though.
Maybe clean, but even with so few miles it looks dear to me.

But Cruise is an easy retro-fit Lee. :thumbsup:
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Post by True-Blue » Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:39 pm

pvr wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:09 pm So if I had kept my M which I sold with 23600 on it, I would have made a good investment :cry:
£28k…. I’d be amazed if anyone fronts up anywhere near that for it.

Asking prices are one thing.
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Post by LeeZ4MR » Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:27 pm

True-Blue wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:39 pm
pvr wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:09 pm So if I had kept my M which I sold with 23600 on it, I would have made a good investment :cry:
£28k…. I’d be amazed if anyone fronts up anywhere near that for it.

Asking prices are one thing.
I remember paying £14.5k for mine with 38k miles on it back in 2012. So basically they haven't lost any money in the intervening years, plus the really nice ones have appreciated too.

I'm beginning to wish that I'd held onto my old one now in fairness! All my 370Z Roadster has done since I bought it 4.5 years ago...is lose money! :cry:
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Post by R60BBA » Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:53 pm

mr wilks wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:09 pm @tomscott
911 ( 997 ) values are already well south from where they reached 2 yrs ago & still falling .sub £20k gets a decent 05/06 90k car
Same story with 981 Caymans . £22k gets a 85k 14plate & only £320 yr ved :oops:
Can only imagine another 10% off these by Easter which won't help ZMvalues one bit .
Bear in mind this country as had mega low %rates & hasn't experienced any fiscal downturn for 15 - 16 yrs :wink: all very relevant to values of impractical weekend treat cars .
Can't ignore M2 M4 values either.
Right now 70 M4 sub 70k for sale on At under £25k
M2s 66 plate 75k around £21k -£22k
Both above circa £30k 12 months ago .


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Sounds like Mr Wilks is looking to come back to the fold.

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Post by Mr Tidy » Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:58 pm

pvr wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:09 pm So if I had kept my M which I sold with 23600 on it, I would have made a good investment
Or maybe Bing did! :lol:
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Post by Mr Tidy » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:03 am

LeeZ4MR wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:27 pm I remember paying £14.5k for mine with 38k miles on it back in 2012. So basically they haven't lost any money in the intervening years, plus the really nice ones have appreciated too.

I'm beginning to wish that I'd held onto my old one now in fairness! All my 370Z Roadster has done since I bought it 4.5 years ago...is lose money!
You do seem to prefer it though!

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Post by Mr Tidy » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:10 am

R60BBA wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:53 pm Sounds like Mr Wilks is looking to come back to the fold.
I'm pretty sure I read something recently suggesting he already had, but obviously not with an M that is going to tank in value apparently. :roll:

To be fair values of non-M/Alpina E85s are at the point where you can't really lose much whatever the future holds.
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Post by mr wilks » Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:04 am

Mr Tidy wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:10 am
R60BBA wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:53 pm Sounds like Mr Wilks is looking to come back to the fold.
I'm pretty sure I read something recently suggesting he already had, but obviously not with an M that is going to tank in value apparently. :roll:
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Post by mr wilks » Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:06 am

R60BBA wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:53 pm
mr wilks wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:09 pm @tomscott
911 ( 997 ) values are already well south from where they reached 2 yrs ago & still falling .sub £20k gets a decent 05/06 90k car
Same story with 981 Caymans . £22k gets a 85k 14plate & only £320 yr ved :oops:
Can only imagine another 10% off these by Easter which won't help ZMvalues one bit .
Bear in mind this country as had mega low %rates & hasn't experienced any fiscal downturn for 15 - 16 yrs :wink: all very relevant to values of impractical weekend treat cars .
Can't ignore M2 M4 values either.
Right now 70 M4 sub 70k for sale on At under £25k
M2s 66 plate 75k around £21k -£22k
Both above circa £30k 12 months ago .


Buckle up , it could be bumpy ride 2024
Sounds like Mr Wilks is looking to come back to the fold.

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Post by abar121 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:14 pm

The Z4M just gets better and better when compared to modern shitboxes, which are getting less driver focused by the day.

Plenty of folks (including me), have come from modern Pork and up to date M cars, back to the zed. They just feel analogue and properly driver focused, unlike todays EPAS / Auto bloaters.

Look at values in Europe / ROW, which have shot up and are still holding. They are an incredible bargain in the UK.
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Post by Beedub » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:18 pm

abar121 wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:14 pm The Z4M just gets better and better when compared to modern shitboxes, which are getting less driver focused by the day.

Plenty of folks (including me), have come from modern Pork and up to date M cars, back to the zed. They just feel analogue and properly driver focused, unlike todays EPAS / Auto bloaters.

Look at values in Europe / ROW, which have shot up and are still holding. They are an incredible bargain in the UK.
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Post by CliveN » Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:34 pm

People do pay good money for good cars. Two of the expensive Z4MCs have left Autotrader and have been sold. I bought one of them. The other went to a collector.
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Post by Mr Tidy » Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:26 pm

mr wilks wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:04 am You don't need to worry about them tanking Mr T I can remember what you paid for yours
Ssh. :roll:

While I think I bagged a bargain I took a bit of a bath when I sold my 3.0Si. :(
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