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mr wilks · Post by **mr wilks** » Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:56 pm

pvr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:29 pm Victorians didn’t have to deal with overpaid lazy train drivers either.

& they only had to fund 5000 civil servants instead of 500,000

pvr · Post by **pvr** » Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:13 pm

mr wilks wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:56 pm
pvr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:29 pm Victorians didn’t have to deal with overpaid lazy train drivers either.
& they only had to fund 5000 civil servants instead of 500,000

With the same output level

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:19 pm

mr wilks wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:32 pm
If they get the timing right with regard numbers on cost of living / inflation & interest rates are seen to have peaked i wouldn't write off another tory parliament after this one .
Or am i just delusional

Unfortunately just delusional.

Like or loath Boris, at least he was voted into office by the public / membership.

Rishi has lost every vote in any election contest he has entered, and as long as he and Hunt are in charge, (I a lifelong Tory voter in an area where they don't count Labour votes they just weigh them) will never vote Tory.

I suspect Labour will win comfortably but only because Tory voters will just not turn out to vote.

TitanTim · Post by **TitanTim** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:46 pm

Would be interested to know how much money has now been wasted in cancelling HS2 and potential regeneration loss, add in all the plans Local Authorities had put in place in accomodating HS2, infrastructure, commerce, business that would have been planned and factored in, what a waste.

Always voted Tory but first Brexit and now the HS2 fiasco why would you vote for them again

and as mentioned Sunak wasn't voted in by the electorate.

Tim.

Pondrew · Post by **Pondrew** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:45 pm

Nanu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:19 pm I suspect Labour will win comfortably but only because Tory voters will just not turn out to vote.

I am in that camp TBH. I will NEVER vote Labour and am a life-long Tory voter, but this time I will not vote, unless it is a 'none of the above' paper spoiler. I can't forgive Boris' Gov for the scaremongering over Covid and the utter fiasco they made of sorting Brexit (which is what they were voted in for let's be honest).

I used to be quite interested in British politics. The Blair years finished it for me TBH. Utter, utter, sell-out, that's what 'New Labour' were and cost the Country an absolute fortune (and still are with their stealth taxes which have not been rescinded).

MikeyH · Post by **MikeyH** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:32 pm

I would never vote Labour, they have b*lls it up too much in the past and will again. Used to vote Tory back in the early Thatcher years before she went mad, don’t anymore, voted for the Lib Dem’s until they sold us out to the Conservatives. Who the hell is left now? Raving Looney Party?