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The "big" grommet at the rear of the battery compartment can leak if it gets dislodged or torn, allowing water straight into where you have it..
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Thanks, Jamie, but I think I will go for a ZHP. It seems there is a noticeable improvement over the OEM version.
But, according the market place, chrisgreen was looking for an OEM unit on 1/11...
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M-Sport suspension, 18” 107 mag ellipsoids, ZHP, xenons, cruise control and stubby
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That’s brilliant, thanks. I have it printed now.Crazy Harry wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:29 pmTry this threadAla5dair wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:17 pm Thanks, all for the comments. It makes sense that, with the slight glass damage, water is getting under the hard top, into the soft top and then, if the drains are blocked, we have the issue. I’ll check the drains and advise ASAP.
Unfortunately, the posts with the drain cleaning instructions either seem to be obsolete (shipkiller) or the photo’s are removed (sixspeed). As a newbie, I’ve no experience of the car, and so I’d really appreciate it if someone could advise where I can see the photo’s too.
Ref the wheels, they’ll be tested tomorrow, and I’ll update once I know the true situation. Fingers crossed...
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all the photos load and explains what to do
2004 3.0i SE in titanium silver with clear third brake and side lights. Black interior.
M-Sport suspension, 18” 107 mag ellipsoids, ZHP, xenons, cruise control and stubby
M-Sport suspension, 18” 107 mag ellipsoids, ZHP, xenons, cruise control and stubby
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I must just say, this being my first day as a member, and my first post, that I am delighted that I joined this forum. The number, and quality of responses has been amazing, and I am genuinely amazed at the knowledge that has been shared, and the depth of experience that is available to draw from. I look forward to using the forum and, hopefully contributing as much as I get....
2004 3.0i SE in titanium silver with clear third brake and side lights. Black interior.
M-Sport suspension, 18” 107 mag ellipsoids, ZHP, xenons, cruise control and stubby
M-Sport suspension, 18” 107 mag ellipsoids, ZHP, xenons, cruise control and stubby
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Welcome to the forum - as you've already found, this forum has plenty of knowledgable members who are always willing to help out.
Hope you get your niggles sorted out one by one and can start to enjoy your Zed
Hope you get your niggles sorted out one by one and can start to enjoy your Zed
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Oh yeah, welcome to the forum
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Hi all. The good news is that, following a trip to my local Malvern Tyres depot, the kerbside tyre deflation issues are solved. It was just some crud between tyre and wheel preventing a good seal. So no new wheels needed, and some money to spend. Phew.
I’ve not managed to check the drains yet, but the weather was great yesterday, and so the hard top came off. The motor is working fine, and when re-fitting the hard top, I checked and applied Vaseline to the seal, which seems to be effective, so this is not an urgent job.
The water in the boot is the greatest concern, and I think I have found the cause. Earlier posts mention ingress through the light fittings as the water runs down the channel on either side of the opening, but this doesn’t happen on mine. On either side of the top of the boot, there is a clear gap between two horizontal metal sheets: .
In the photo, the fir needle is pointing into the gap, and some deposit from earlier water can be seen.
Water runs between these 2 sheets and then exits from 2 different locations behind the rear wheels. Given that the gap is the same on both sides, and both sides of the boot are wet, I suspect that somehow water is finding its way into the boot. I’d appreciate it if anyone has ever come across this, and can provide any advice...?
I’ve not managed to check the drains yet, but the weather was great yesterday, and so the hard top came off. The motor is working fine, and when re-fitting the hard top, I checked and applied Vaseline to the seal, which seems to be effective, so this is not an urgent job.
The water in the boot is the greatest concern, and I think I have found the cause. Earlier posts mention ingress through the light fittings as the water runs down the channel on either side of the opening, but this doesn’t happen on mine. On either side of the top of the boot, there is a clear gap between two horizontal metal sheets: .
In the photo, the fir needle is pointing into the gap, and some deposit from earlier water can be seen.
Water runs between these 2 sheets and then exits from 2 different locations behind the rear wheels. Given that the gap is the same on both sides, and both sides of the boot are wet, I suspect that somehow water is finding its way into the boot. I’d appreciate it if anyone has ever come across this, and can provide any advice...?
2004 3.0i SE in titanium silver with clear third brake and side lights. Black interior.
M-Sport suspension, 18” 107 mag ellipsoids, ZHP, xenons, cruise control and stubby
M-Sport suspension, 18” 107 mag ellipsoids, ZHP, xenons, cruise control and stubby
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That looks pretty normal to me - Don't forget, there will be a bead of "panel sealant" underneath accounting for the little "step" between the panel edges.
Did you check the big grommet?
Mike
Did you check the big grommet?
Mike
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Hello and Welcome to the forum. Car looks great. It just needs a little TLC. My old 3rd brake light in the bootlid leaked as it was cracked and the seal perished. Also check the neoprene foam gaskets on the reverse of the rear lights for perishing. From your photo it looks like a chip/damage to the lower edge of the hardtop rear window. I doubt this is the source of any leaks as the hardtop seal itself sits on the bodywork and prevents any water ingress. You could 'hide' that damaged glass edge with a length of rubber u-section panel trim like this :
Buy a piece the same length as the edge of the window and just push it on. Car Builder Solutions supply this kind of thing for kitcars etc. Sterling Grey '03 2.5i SE / Infinitas Supercharger / S.M.G / Hardtop / Gloss Black 162s / Bilstein B4s / 3.0i Brakes / DLV De-Cat & Silencer / Rebuilt VANOS / Sonar 2Xcite Lights / Carbon & Alcantara Trim / M-Sport Seats / ...& Side Covers !
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Mike,Ducklakeview wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:12 pm That looks pretty normal to me - Don't forget, there will be a bead of "panel sealant" underneath accounting for the little "step" between the panel edges.
Did you check the big grommet?
Mike
I looked briefly for the grommet, but it wasn’t obvious, and as the carpet is also wet on both sides of the opening, I didn’t think this was likely to be the cause. The car is covered at the moment, but I’ll have another look tomorrow.
PS - I’d like to arrange a roof motor relocation in the near future, and I wonder if you can do a cdv delete at the same time? I’ll email you once I have a timescale, and once I’ve driven the car more than 50 miles in one go...
2004 3.0i SE in titanium silver with clear third brake and side lights. Black interior.
M-Sport suspension, 18” 107 mag ellipsoids, ZHP, xenons, cruise control and stubby
M-Sport suspension, 18” 107 mag ellipsoids, ZHP, xenons, cruise control and stubby
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No probs, can have a look at the water leak as well if you want.Ala5dair wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:14 pmMike,Ducklakeview wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:12 pm That looks pretty normal to me - Don't forget, there will be a bead of "panel sealant" underneath accounting for the little "step" between the panel edges.
Did you check the big grommet?
Mike
I looked briefly for the grommet, but it wasn’t obvious, and as the carpet is also wet on both sides of the opening, I didn’t think this was likely to be the cause. The car is covered at the moment, but I’ll have another look tomorrow.
PS - I’d like to arrange a roof motor relocation in the near future, and I wonder if you can do a cdv delete at the same time? I’ll email you once I have a timescale, and once I’ve driven the car more than 50 miles in one go...
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Thanks,patriot66 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:11 pm Hello and Welcome to the forum. Car looks great. It just needs a little TLC. My old 3rd brake light in the bootlid leaked as it was cracked and the seal perished. Also check the neoprene foam gaskets on the reverse of the rear lights for perishing. From your photo it looks like a chip/damage to the lower edge of the hardtop rear window. I doubt this is the source of any leaks as the hardtop seal itself sits on the bodywork and prevents any water ingress. You could 'hide' that damaged glass edge with a length of rubber u-section panel trim like this :
0017109_115-x-6mm-rubber-u-channel-for-3mm-panels-per-metre.jpegBuy a piece the same length as the edge of the window and just push it on. Car Builder Solutions supply this kind of thing for kitcars etc.
I’ll check all lights once a) the rain stops and b) the new third light arrives....
Ref the glass - good idea about the trim. I’ve actually applied some clear epoxy to the crack, and it’s looking better. Once it is trimmed to shape, I think it will be hardly visible, and will prevent any further damage.
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Cheers, Mike. I think I might take you up on that...Ducklakeview wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:17 pmNo probs, can have a look at the water leak as well if you want.Ala5dair wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:14 pmMike,Ducklakeview wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:12 pm That looks pretty normal to me - Don't forget, there will be a bead of "panel sealant" underneath accounting for the little "step" between the panel edges.
Did you check the big grommet?
Mike
I looked briefly for the grommet, but it wasn’t obvious, and as the carpet is also wet on both sides of the opening, I didn’t think this was likely to be the cause. The car is covered at the moment, but I’ll have another look tomorrow.
PS - I’d like to arrange a roof motor relocation in the near future, and I wonder if you can do a cdv delete at the same time? I’ll email you once I have a timescale, and once I’ve driven the car more than 50 miles in one go...
Mike
2004 3.0i SE in titanium silver with clear third brake and side lights. Black interior.
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Hi MikeDucklakeview wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:12 pm That looks pretty normal to me - Don't forget, there will be a bead of "panel sealant" underneath accounting for the little "step" between the panel edges.
Did you check the big grommet?
Mike
I’ve spent the morning disassembling the rear of the z.
Is the grommet you mention as shown in the photo below?. If so, there are 2 and they are in place and intact. Returning to another possibility, there is no sealant between the two panels either side of the boot opening, meaning water passes between them, (shown.by the double-headed arrow), and there is a gap between these and the light housing, which means that water pours directly into the cavity where the lights are mounted. There doesn’t seem to be any ingress via the lights themselves, but it seems to be entering the light trim mounting holes and then getting in via the rear On the kerbside, it’s also getting through the grommet for the parking sensors, on the rear inner panel The car is drying out, and now that I think I know the cause, I can address it, but I’d like to understand the supposed route for water that enters the boot rim. Should it pass as it does, between the 2 horizontal panels and then out between the inner and outer rear quarter panels, or should it flow along the boot rim channel and then out over the rear bumper?
Can’t anyone advise the best way of solving this problem?
I could silicon all of these gaps, so that water runs down the boot rim and over the rear bumper, but this might look a bit messy and cause problems elsewhere.... Any and all advice welcome...
2004 3.0i SE in titanium silver with clear third brake and side lights. Black interior.
M-Sport suspension, 18” 107 mag ellipsoids, ZHP, xenons, cruise control and stubby
M-Sport suspension, 18” 107 mag ellipsoids, ZHP, xenons, cruise control and stubby