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Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by Marekdawg » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:28 pm

Just wanted to see what people think and use. :scratchhead:
What Petrol do you use? Regular, Premium or both depending on use? Also what about fuel additives IE Redex etc... :fuelfire:
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Post by sunnydays » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:49 pm

Shell V Power Nitro 99 all the time for the 35is

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Post by huytonman » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:30 pm

Shell V Power for my 35iS, same for the wifes Cooper-S (cant get 99 RON around here though so mine is 97)
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Post by PinkPineapple44 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:55 pm

I use Shell V power or BP ultimate for my mapped cars and cars I like. Any old crap for everything else :P

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Post by Smartbear » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:07 pm

Tesco momentum or Shell V power here, always used super unleaded in my zeds for its engine cleaning properties if nothing else but with a turbo engine it’s got real performance benefits as well :driving:
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Post by Boris » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:34 pm

Aways Super Unleaded in the Z and no Supermarket Diesel in the Merc E Class or Mazda CX5.

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Post by ric19 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:25 pm

Combustible Propellant..? = Motion Lotion :)

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Post by buzyg » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:47 pm

Smartbear wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:07 pm Tesco momentum or Shell V power here, always used super unleaded in my zed for its engine cleaning properties :driving:
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Post by SteveSmith » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:01 pm

Shell V Power in everything even the OH's Mini Cooper with the awful 3 cylinder engine!
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Post by Busterboo » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:36 pm

sunnydays wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:49 pm Shell V Power Nitro 99 all the time for the 35is
Why? :?

It's 1 above BMW's recommended maximum RON, 2 expensive and 3 finding a Shell station can be a nuisance.
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Post by john-e89 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:36 am

Busterboo wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:36 pm
sunnydays wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:49 pm Shell V Power Nitro 99 all the time for the 35is
Why? :?

It's 1 above BMW's recommended maximum RON, 2 expensive and 3 finding a Shell station can be a nuisance.
The log book for the E89 was written before Shell nitro v power nitro + was produced, it’s not changed much to production end, nor the fuel filler sticker, a standard from production start. BMW now are in partnership with Shell and recommend using 99 Ron in their M cars, the 35is is not an M, however there is no literature from BMW saying you shouldn’t use 99 Ron in their cars, that includes the 35is. This fuel for example has cleaning and lubing properties beneficial to an engine. Octane rating is largely a knock retardant, therefore the higher the Ron the better, it burns in a more controlled way, and the 35is has a knock sensor which would retard timing if the fuel octane was too low. We’ve been here before, if you can find one single written word where BMW say you shouldn’t use 99 Ron in a 35is I’ll give you an apology. Do you honestly think BMW are going to sell a car costing upwards of 50k before discounts that shouldn’t use 99 Ron fuel without telling new owners? Sytner Nottingham did not tell me not to use 99 Ron when buying my 35is new in 2015 when Shell V power nitro + was in production. It’s a fair assumption to make that they would have as the car came with a 3 year warranty, enough time I’d say to damage the pistons and cost them oodles of quids. How many stickers have you seen on Shell fuel pumps, Momentum 99 pumps for example declaring that the BMW 35is mustn’t use their 99 Ron fuel? Sorry, was that none you say...? Funny that, as there aren’t any.

How do you know it’s a nuisance for Sunnydays to find a Shell station? How do you know it’s expensive for him to buy? Do you know if he can afford it or not?

If you feel the need to post on the forum then why not tell a joke or two, or find something that you have some sort of idea on, as difficult as that may be....it would make a nice change from drivel. :thumbsup:
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Post by Mr Tidy » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:39 am

Wrong combustible it seems, but some years ago I was working as a commercial property loss adjuster and went to a site that made a certain hair-spray (think of Roger Clark)!

To keep the environmentalists happy they had to change their propellant to LPG - but when it went wrong it "blew the bloody walls off"!

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Post by Smartbear » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:40 am

Busterboo wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:36 pm
sunnydays wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:49 pm Shell V Power Nitro 99 all the time for the 35is
Why? :?

It's 1 above BMW's recommended maximum RON, 2 expensive and 3 finding a Shell station can be a nuisance.
Because it makes your engine cleaner internally, that’s a pretty good reason.
Also it’s been well documented that forced induction cars do particularly well on super unleaded, gaining more benefit from the fuel than a na engine would, that’s another good reason :thumbsup:
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Post by Busterboo » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:58 am

john-e89 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:36 am
Busterboo wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:36 pm
sunnydays wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:49 pm Shell V Power Nitro 99 all the time for the 35is
Why? :?

It's 1 above BMW's recommended maximum RON, 2 expensive and 3 finding a Shell station can be a nuisance.
The log book for the E89 was written before Shell nitro v power nitro + was produced ...
"Shell V-Power, formerly known as Shell V-Power Nitro+, is the brand name given to Shell's enhanced high specification fuels for road motor vehicles. Shell launched the fuel in March 2008 under the name Nitrogen-Enriched Shell V-Power, with nitrogen-containing detergents." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_V-Power

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Post by john-e89 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:44 am

Royal Dutch Shell Plc .com Rotating Header Image
Will Shell’s new V-Power Nitro Plus fuel ruin car engines?
Apr 24th, 2013 by John Donovan.
I remember the launch of another wonder fuel by Shell in 1986, “Formula Shell”, based on new technology and with a scientific image deliberately conjured up by Shell. There was only one small problem. The new wonder fuel ruined many car engines and it did so on an international basis.

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By John Donovan

The Telegraph has published an article today under the headline: Can Shell’s new ‘Formula 1’ petrol ease anger at pumps?

It asks: Is Shell’s new petrol – Shell’s new V-Power Nitro Plus fuel – as good as the fuel used in Formula 1 cars?

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David Moss, the chief executive of Shell UK who was in Battersea to launch the fuel with Ferrari, accepted that petrol prices are “not cheap” but he insisted his company is not to blame. “If you take out the duties and taxes that customers pay in the UK, the fuel prices are some of the most competitive in Europe,” he said. “It is a very, very competitive market place and Shell has to be competitively placed.” He denies charges that Shell and others are profiteering from a captured UK market.

Mr Moss says the new fuel, whose engine cleaning agent is 25pc better than the old V-Power, is part of the effort to attract customers.


2013, 5 years into 35is production. You still haven’t answered the point about BMW not letting customers use 99 Ron in the 35is either. :)
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