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If you buy something which is "not as described" should you bear the cost of returning it?

Yes, it's just one of those things
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No, the cost should be borne by the seller
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Hell no, and how about some compensation for the hassle (this option added as a joke btw)
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Post by Nictrix » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:29 am

ronk wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:13 pm
cj10jeeper wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:46 pm Sadly forum member to member can be a challenge as it's just a private sale.
Hopefully it can be resolved by s call or PM, but not a public trial...
I agree with the "no public trial " but If it's been something naughty or underhanded, do the mods not have any powers to intervene in some way?
What exactly could they do, ask them politely to pay up or they get banned?
Or maybe give them a smacked bottom :lol:
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Post by Ducklakeview » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:41 am

Nictrix wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:29 am
ronk wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:13 pm
cj10jeeper wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:46 pm Sadly forum member to member can be a challenge as it's just a private sale.
Hopefully it can be resolved by s call or PM, but not a public trial...
I agree with the "no public trial " but If it's been something naughty or underhanded, do the mods not have any powers to intervene in some way?
What exactly could they do, ask them politely to pay up or they get banned?
Or maybe give them a smacked bottom :lol:
Lol - As I said, I CBA about the money, it's the principle that when dealing with a long-standing and active member (1200+ posts) there is a "given" that items will be accurately described, and any problems dealt with in a fair manner, and that I shouldn't be out of pocket at all if it's not "as described" when received.

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Post by ronk » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:03 am

Yes - just ask them to play by the basic rules like the rest of us!
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Post by GBZ4 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:33 am

You never know, the said forum member with 1200+ posts may well read this thread and have a 'crisis of conscience' and decide to refund your £8.55. :roll:
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Post by Ducklakeview » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:34 am

GBZ4 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:33 am You never know, the said forum member with 1200+ posts may well read this thread and have a 'crisis of conscience' and decide to refund your £8.55. :roll:
You never know...

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Post by mmm-five » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:39 am

I know this is a private seller and not a business, but would still assume the 'rules' apply.

At least a business should be aware of the Consumer Contracts Regulations (formerly the Distance Selling Regulations), and where/when they can refuse a refund of return postage (e.g. you are not entitled to a refund on return postage if you simply change your mind).
CCR/DSR wrote: The seller's terms and conditions or returns policy should state who pays the cost of returning an item.

If they don't state this, then the seller has to cover the cost.

In this case, you're entitled to a refund of the total amount you paid, including costs to ship the item to you, and the fee to return the item. No admin or restocking fees should be charged.
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CCR/DSR wrote:Any terms and conditions that say you must cover the cost of returning an item wouldn’t apply where the goods being returned are faulty (or materially not as described).
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Post by Ducklakeview » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:44 am

That's what he was trying to imply, however it wasn't the case. Had the item been as described, I would have happily kept it!

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Post by GBZ4 » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:56 am

Ducklakeview wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:34 am
GBZ4 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:33 am You never know, the said forum member with 1200+ posts may well read this thread and have a 'crisis of conscience' and decide to refund your £8.55. :roll:
You never know...

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Hi Mike,

Looks like my faith in human nature has been misplaced once more. I was hoping this thread would prick his conscience :rcard:
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Post by Ducklakeview » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:38 am

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Post by TitanTim » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:23 am

Ebay, great when it works but a pain when it doesn't.

I recently bought a BMW bonnet roundel for the 140i, less than a year old and it had started corroding :x I thought I would get the dealer to replace it under warranty but I just couldn't be having with booking the car in and them levering the old one off with a screwdriver and probably causing damage. I bought one off ebay described as genuine and new in its packaging. It was a tenner less than the dealer price so paid £24.99. It arrived and was scuffed around the edge and a bit beaten up. Contacted the seller who said send it back at my cost. I sent it back but didn't use any proof of posting service as thought it shouldn't be an issue. A few weeks passed and heard nothing so contacted the seller who claims they never received it back. Ebay haven't been much help and they say they need proof of posting as its my word against the sellers. pain in the arse at the end of the day. Ended up going to the dealer and getting one for another 35 quid :x

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