Brexit Pessimism - give it a rest please !

[firebobby]

Not sure what this fixation on free movement of people is tbh.

It is obvious that the objective of the "elite" in the EU is to create irreversible mass migration and population displacement, so that national borders become irrelevant. Once this occurs, there will be no need for the remaining 27 nations to have national representation in a European parliament and 450 million people will be treated as one population which can be controlled by the "elite". That's the reason why individuals such as the un-elected Jean Claude Junkers want to make "free movement of people" non-negotiable. Those wishing to remain within the EU are sleepwalking into servitude and subjugation.

...because being controlled by the elite in Brussels is w-a-y different to being controlled by the elite in Westminster.

At least we can vote for the Westminster elite, we can't vote the leaders in the EU cesspool.

[stuartC]

...because being controlled by the elite in Brussels is w-a-y different to being controlled by the elite in Westminster.

Actually, it is!

How the hell did Jean Claude Junkers get to muscle his way into being President of the European Commission? Did you vote for him or anyone else in the "elite"? Have you ever looked into the European Stability Mechanism which operates from Luxembourg (from where Junkers hails) and the extraordinary powers granted to it by the EU?

I don't recall voting for Theresa May either, but that's politics for ya

[wegras]

I don't recall voting for George ( Gordon ) Brown either so it must be politics

[original guvnor]

...because being controlled by the elite in Brussels is w-a-y different to being controlled by the elite in Westminster.

Actually, it is!

How the hell did Jean Claude Junkers get to muscle his way into being President of the European Commission? Did you vote for him or anyone else in the "elite"? Have you ever looked into the European Stability Mechanism which operates from Luxembourg (from where Junkers hails) and the extraordinary powers granted to it by the EU?

I don't recall voting for Theresa May either, but that's politics for ya

Unless you are a constituent of hers, nobody voted for her, or Cameron, Blair, etc. But her party won an election with a manifesto pledge to hold a EU referendum.