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Post by Busterboo » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:16 am

My experience of tyres is that there's almost always a trade-off somewhere. So, obviously, longevity can mean a hard ride, superb (dry) grip usually equals a short life and so on.

Michelin PS2s seemed to defy this, but on a very well set-up 911, they would 'float' momentarily - almost like aquaplaning - on the front end above 150 and were worse at 160+. Now, that's a bit quick to start worrying about what's keeping you attached to the road.

Z4s may well not have this problem, of course, but I ain't buying a set to find out.
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Post by Maniac » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:56 am

Neither for me. Bridgestone are woeful and my Michelin PSS have degraded badly with cracks all over them, never had such issues with Pirelli where ill be returning to if not trying a new brand entirely. Hardly use the Z at the moment for fear of a blowout. Tread is 5mm and tyres are at proper pressure, they're not even 3 years old. Michelin tell me they shouldn't be used in winter as they're summer tyres and they will crack and fail in winter. Never had that said or happen with any other summer tyres. Lots of money down the pan.

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Post by kis » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:50 pm

biojo wrote:always used Michelins on previous cars.

Currents switched to michelin on rear as bridstones were worn and kept getting nails in them (3 in 4 month)

Still got bridge stones on front but will be switching to michelin once need changing
3 in 4 months!! Mighty unlucky mate... maybe it was a sign to get the Michelins on :wink:
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Post by biojo » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:28 pm

tbh i dont know how long the bridgestones had been on car, but they was cracking too which probably made it easier

before that id only ever had 2 in 12 years.

Never had a Michelin show signs of cracking and there usually on car 3 years+ before need changing

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Post by kis » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:11 am

biojo wrote:tbh i dont know how long the bridgestones had been on car, but they was cracking too which probably made it easier

before that id only ever had 2 in 12 years.

Never had a Michelin show signs of cracking and there usually on car 3 years+ before need changing
My experience is the same. I've got a crap set of Potenza's on the front which look like they've been around a while. Michelin's I've never had problems with. Always go for Sport so PS2's and maybe next I'll try the PS4 or SS.

Quite supprised by your comments Busterboo and Maniac. Although I haven't been on any 'airbases recently' to get up to that sort of speed on the 'runway' :wink: and my PS2's are classed as summer as well, though I've used them through winters without issues.
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Post by Smartbear » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:25 am

Maniac wrote:Neither for me. Bridgestone are woeful and my Michelin PSS have degraded badly with cracks all over them, never had such issues with Pirelli where ill be returning to if not trying a new brand entirely. Hardly use the Z at the moment for fear of a blowout. Tread is 5mm and tyres are at proper pressure, they're not even 3 years old. Michelin tell me they shouldn't be used in winter as they're summer tyres and they will crack and fail in winter. Never had that said or happen with any other summer tyres. Lots of money down the pan.
That sounds terrible, not fit for purpose even :thumbsdown:
How bad are the cracks? Can you see the cords through the cracks or is it more of a cosmetic thing?
I think I'd be contacting trading standards if it failed an mot because of them.
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Post by biojo » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:42 pm

i know mine got through a MOT

mine was like this, once new tyres where fitted i did have car fully aligned

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Post by Maniac » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:04 am

See I'd be pretty worried about those cracks. Mine have cracked on the shoulders, I'll get a pic if I get chance.

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Post by Maniac » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:10 am

I found this while searching, mines not quite this bad but it's getting there. Also PSS

http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73166

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Post by Smartbear » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:16 am

Maniac wrote:I found this while searching, mines not quite this bad but it's getting there. Also PSS

http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73166
I'd go back to the supplier & see what they've got to say about it :?
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Post by kis » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:15 pm

Smartbear wrote: I'd go back to the supplier & see what they've got to say about it :?
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I would as well. I think around 3 or 4 year mark for warranty? My Bridgestone fronts are slightly cracked, due to age, sunlight, whatever else. Rears are newer, they're holding up fine. No cracks at all, not even hairline. If mine were cracked and I felt they weren't superficial I'd get them changed ASAP. I'd also be on the phone to get replacements... Fair bit of cash to just throw down the pan. Especially as its not your fault.
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Post by obewan » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:42 pm

biojo wrote:tbh i dont know how long the bridgestones had been on car, but they was cracking too which probably made it easier

before that id only ever had 2 in 12 years.

Never had a Michelin show signs of cracking and there usually on car 3 years+ before need changing
I know it doesn't tell you when they were put on the car, but the 4 digit number on the side wall will tell you when they were manufactured
First 2 numbers are the week in the year they were made
Second 2 numbers are the year
so 1211 = 12th week of 2011

I also found Bridgestones to be awful (although well worn when I bought the car). Swapped for Pirelli P Zeros and they were great
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Post by kis » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:56 pm

obewan wrote:
biojo wrote:tbh i dont know how long the bridgestones had been on car, but they was cracking too which probably made it easier

before that id only ever had 2 in 12 years.

Never had a Michelin show signs of cracking and there usually on car 3 years+ before need changing
I know it doesn't tell you when they were put on the car, but the 4 digit number on the side wall will tell you when they were manufactured
First 2 numbers are the week in the year they were made
Second 2 numbers are the year
so 1211 = 12th week of 2011

I also found Bridgestones to be awful (although well worn when I bought the car). Swapped for Pirelli P Zeros and they were great
I checked mine the other day, you won't believe the date I've got stamped on my fronts!
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X5 - E53, E70
X6 - E71

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Post by Busterboo » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:13 pm

kis wrote:
biojo wrote: Quite supprised by your comments Busterboo ... Although I haven't been on any 'airbases recently' to get up to that sort of speed on the 'runway' :wink:
I'm lucky to live close to Bruntingthorpe. :roll:
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