Not joined yet? Register for free and enjoy features such as alerts, private messaging and viewing latest posts and topics.

Mechanic jargon

Discuss problems you have had or are having with your Z4
putanything
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 21
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:36 pm

Mechanic jargon

Post by putanything » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:14 pm

do you mean these hopz?
20170621_131328.png
20170621_131328.png (166.55 KiB) Viewed 833 times

User avatar
hopz121
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3711
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:33 pm
Location: Guildford Surrey

Mechanic jargon

Post by hopz121 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:17 pm

putanything wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:14 pm do you mean these hopz? 20170621_131328.png
Yep, those are the first bushes to wear, id stick some power flex ones in :)
2004 BMW E46 M3 Coupe - Manual - Silver Grey
2017 BMW F31 318d M-Sport - Auto - Glacier Silver
2007 Porsche Cayman 2.7 - Manual - Arctic Silver
2003 Renault Clio 172 Cup - Blue
2003 BMW E85 Z4 3.0i - Gone
2008 BMW E90 330i SE - Gone

putanything
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 21
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:36 pm

Mechanic jargon

Post by putanything » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:20 pm

haha got em all ready. I was gonna have them fitted last year but my mechanic said there was no need i quote 'there's beep all wrong with them' instert word where beep is 😊

User avatar
hopz121
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3711
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:33 pm
Location: Guildford Surrey

Mechanic jargon

Post by hopz121 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:21 pm

putanything wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:20 pm haha got em all ready. I was gonna have them fitted last year but my mechanic said there was no need i quote 'there's beep all wrong with them' instert word where beep is 😊
Wont do any harm mate if you are changing the others too, makes a decent difference to the car IMO
2004 BMW E46 M3 Coupe - Manual - Silver Grey
2017 BMW F31 318d M-Sport - Auto - Glacier Silver
2007 Porsche Cayman 2.7 - Manual - Arctic Silver
2003 Renault Clio 172 Cup - Blue
2003 BMW E85 Z4 3.0i - Gone
2008 BMW E90 330i SE - Gone

putanything
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 21
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:36 pm

Mechanic jargon

Post by putanything » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:23 pm

Just need to sort out a good brand for the hub mounts and then Im good to go I think. cheers for the advice.

User avatar
hopz121
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3711
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:33 pm
Location: Guildford Surrey

Mechanic jargon

Post by hopz121 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:28 pm

putanything wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:23 pm Just need to sort out a good brand for the hub mounts and then Im good to go I think. cheers for the advice.
Go for OEM (lemforder) buddy, or Meyle

ECP should be able to help you out for a good price.
2004 BMW E46 M3 Coupe - Manual - Silver Grey
2017 BMW F31 318d M-Sport - Auto - Glacier Silver
2007 Porsche Cayman 2.7 - Manual - Arctic Silver
2003 Renault Clio 172 Cup - Blue
2003 BMW E85 Z4 3.0i - Gone
2008 BMW E90 330i SE - Gone

User avatar
hopz121
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3711
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:33 pm
Location: Guildford Surrey

Mechanic jargon

Post by hopz121 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:29 pm

may as well change camber arm bolts too whilst there as they may well have to be cut out anyway to fit the new bushes.
2004 BMW E46 M3 Coupe - Manual - Silver Grey
2017 BMW F31 318d M-Sport - Auto - Glacier Silver
2007 Porsche Cayman 2.7 - Manual - Arctic Silver
2003 Renault Clio 172 Cup - Blue
2003 BMW E85 Z4 3.0i - Gone
2008 BMW E90 330i SE - Gone

putanything
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 21
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:36 pm

Mechanic jargon

Post by putanything » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:04 am

Ok guys time for a quick update. Also thanks for all the great advice.

So after further quotes of between 90 and 400 for replacing them I have bitten the bullet and decided to have ago myself. Now so far its cost me 75 for the bits I need. Why I hear you all cry in unison how ever only 30 of that is for the supposedly proper bushing removal tool of ebay. The rest is some investment equipment.

Axel stands a steal from halfords Β£15 for 3tonne rachet ones half price.
A sealey breaker bar and a Silverline torque wrench (I am unsure how good it is how ever its gotten good reviews on amazon and its better than my grandads halfords needle one I hope)

I already have my socket set so thats good.

Can you tell I am starting to build my self a kit of stuff....

Now if you all dont mind I could do with some more advice.

I watch chrisfix on youtube and when he is working on his cars if he is reusing bolts he applies medium strength threadlocker as well as torquing them down. Do I need to follow suite and use thread locker.

Also do my new bushings need some anti sieze stuff like the copper stuff or is that a waste of money or even worse dangerous to apply to bushings.

Many further thanks in advance. Also I am not sure if this is in the right part of the forum anymore.

Also got wheel chocks very important I dont want to squish anything😊

putanything
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 21
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:36 pm

Mechanic jargon

Post by putanything » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:31 am

Hello all,

yesterday I had a go at fitting these bushings. Nutshell I failed. Here is a little run down of events.

First thing to mention I do all my work on the side of a very busy main road into the city. Not ideal as this makes something as simple as jacking up the car problematic.

What I found out... I need a low profile jack as my trolly jack wont go under the sill. My resolution lift from the other jack point with a scissor jack to raise car enough to get trolly under to raise car enough to get axle stand under.

Got the rear wheel off and found that the tyre place had buttered the wheel nuts with a load of copper lube stuff. Not sure if thats good or bad. seems to be bad I have since found as it changes the torque settings of the bolts.

Anyway I had a look at the bushing and it was at such an angle if i had tried to take it out then I would never have gotten the bolt back through. Unfortunatly I could not get the suspension to sit level either with a crow bar or a jack under the arm raising it up. Ok I didnt go mental with the jack even though I gave the car a good shove to.make sure it was stable on the axel stands the way I had it supported just didnt look sturdy enough to me.

So I replace the wheel without breaking the bushing bolt so I can still drive it untill I think of another solution.

User avatar
sw4nny
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1713
Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:14 pm
Location: Barnsley

Mechanic jargon

Post by sw4nny » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:58 am

Take it to a garage doing work at the side of a busy road is likey to end in something getting squished :wink:
E85 3.oi titan silver,Maldives blue E85 3.0i gone but not forgotten

User avatar
Ewazix
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 4721
Joined: Sun May 02, 2010 5:30 pm
Location: Somerset

Mechanic jargon

Post by Ewazix » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:26 am

It's not a popular job with mechanics for good reason, bolts invariably get difficult and bush removal sometimes requires a hefty press and can result in component damage. Not an ideal roadside job TBH.
2003 2.5 SE, low miles, Sterling Grey, 108's & Eagles, no stubby here! Unmolested.
2018 Cooper S Countryman
Fiesta Ecoboost

Chris1981
Member
Member
Posts: 281
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:39 am

Mechanic jargon

Post by Chris1981 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:07 am

As others have mentioned your location is not ideal and if you want to do it yourself I'd see about borrowing a mates driveway if possible.

Regarding the jacking issues, I have the same since lowering my car at the weekend... simple solution is to have a couple of bits of wood, (I use cut down planks from a pallet) insert these in front of the wheel/wheels or which ever corner or corners you're trying to lift and drive onto them, you'll then get a trolley jack under the jack pad and you're away! :thumbsup:
E86 Coupe 3.0si Sport - Montego Blue, Pearl Grey with Piano Black dash
BC BR series Coilovers, powerflex bushes, 15mm spacers, Custom SS exhaust, CDV delete

putanything
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 21
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:36 pm

Mechanic jargon

Post by putanything » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:33 am

Something squished is high on my priorities of things to avoid.

I think my old wise head is getting the better of me and rightly so. 10 years ago I thought nothing of swapping my front shocks on my mondeo using wind up jack. Ive tempted fate enough with things falling I think.

That being said Ive not given up on swapping these myself. But I am thinking 3 car ramps and a jack stand then all 3 of the other wheels are on something solid. A lot safer. Also a mates garage as recomended.....

User avatar
dhobbs
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1621
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:33 pm

Mechanic jargon

Post by dhobbs » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:52 am

Only use silicone grease on rubber. Other types can degrade the rubber or cause it to swell. Copper grease is an anti seize not a lubricant so avoid on rubber.

Good luck and well done for giving it a go.
I tried to do my drop links and gave up as didn't have the tools. On order now.
3.0si roadster. Requisite stubby. Sound gen mod. LED numberplate lights. LED boot strip. Interior lights LED too. ZHP gearknob. Daily drive :driving:
Motor in boot. Bilstein B8 dampers. New radio, much better sounds :thumbsup:

putanything
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 21
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:36 pm

Mechanic jargon

Post by putanything » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:11 pm

when i did the drop link I found 2 different brands on. one came of nice and easy and went back on easy. the other was the type with the alan key thing in the middle. siezed on I didnt stand a chance. so that was done by the garage.

Ive just booked this in for the bushings to be done next week. I keep thinking about it and i havemt got enough time to spend a day doing it and a further day swearing at the bloody things.

I will however be doing the shocks all around in a few months. that will be fun. my swear box will be over flowing with pounds by the end I will be able to afford an e89 πŸ˜‚

Post Reply