Whoops [Z4 crash on motorway]

Dafrich · Post by **Dafrich** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:16 am

You guys may have seen this on you tube ?
"BMW Z4 Pulls into traffic causing a collision - Full Video"
Just spotted on news website.

soundb0y · Post by **soundb0y** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:17 am

How about a link?

ekimj10 · Post by **ekimj10** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:25 am

Is this the same one that cj10jeeper posted a couple of days ago?
https://youtu.be/PmcWKtn_Fyk

soundb0y · Post by **soundb0y** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:59 am

Some people should not be on the roads!

Dafrich · Post by **Dafrich** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:06 am

ekimj10 wrote:Is this the same one that cj10jeeper posted a couple of days ago?
[url]<a class="vglnk" href="https://youtu.be/PmcWKtn_Fyk[/url" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/PmcWKtn_Fyk[/url</a>]

Yes it looks like it is. Didn't see it sorry
Easy done if you don't use your mirrors well and no excuse with dashcam record.

Sgreen · Post by **Sgreen** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:14 pm

Just watched twice and it looks 50/50, just unlucky. I think he saw a clear lane to pull out into and at the same time the yellow Clio?, was pulling into the inside lane from the middle lane with no indicator. Really need to see from further back to be sure. But....if the Z4 driver was just trying to queue jump.....w@@ker!

JAD · Post by **JAD** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:17 pm

Sgreen wrote:Just watched twice and it looks 50/50, just unlucky. I think he saw a clear lane to pull out into and at the same time the yellow Clio?, was pulling into the inside lane from the middle lane with no indicator. Really need to see from further back to be sure. But....if the Z4 driver was just trying to queue jump.....w@@ker!

Not knowing all the facts, my comment is based on hearsay; yes, he'd pulled into the lane very late (causing other vehicles to brake hard) and then decided to try his luck further on. He also claimed to have lost consciousness, but can clearly be seen braking, indicating and guiding his car to the hard shoulder.

Dafrich · Post by **Dafrich** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:05 pm

"He also claimed to have lost consciousness"
Should have dropped the roof, bit of fresh air would have sorted it
Whatever the reason it still ends up with one nice car damaged and insurance premiums jacked up.

paulgs1000 · Post by **paulgs1000** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:56 pm

WLH wrote:
biojo wrote:does the other car look to be coming out of middle lane and into nearside

sill the z4s fault
I saw that as well especially when viewing that part of the clip 1 frame at a time. Might explain that the Z4 driver saw him but did not see his movement to the lane he pulled out into. Still IMO the fault is with the Z4 driver.

Might also be explained if the Citroen was not signalling when returning to the inside lane . . . can't tell from the video.
Lesson there about being ready for traffic pulling out of queing lanes - in my experience, particularly something to watch for when on a motorcycle! Despite wearing high vis and headlight on

Maniac · Post by **Maniac** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:56 pm

I am very familiar with this stretch of road and I've seen many accidents here. People drive like idiots in all these lanes leaving everything until the last minute. I slow near this stretch anticipating several impatient and selfish drivers. I'm never disappointed.

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:03 pm

Clearly the Z4 driver at fault due to impatience but why was the Citroen travelling so fast in those circumstances?

firebobby · Post by **firebobby** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:09 pm

The Z4 driver was totally to blame, impatient tosser in my eyes. I hate drivers who think they don't need to queue like the mugs they drive past, they sail past the mugs and then pull into the smallest of gaps, on come the brakes and f@ck all you lot behind.
Hope he gets his licence removed for dangerous driving, because that what it was, drivers a dangerous prick

Why shouldn't the Citroen change lanes, indicator or not ??

TitanTim · Post by **TitanTim** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:40 pm

All conjecture but it would make sense if the Citroen had been in the middle lane hadn't indicated as to why the Z4 thought the coast was clear and pulled out, the lane may have been clear

Tim.

firebobby · Post by **firebobby** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:59 pm

TitanTim wrote:All conjecture but it would make sense if the Citroen had been in the middle lane hadn't indicated as to why the Z4 thought the coast was clear and pulled out, the lane may have been clear

Tim.

I do a lot of driving in my job Tim and see plenty of pricks like this, they drive around in their own self importance cutting others up and normally get clean away from accidents they cause. This prize plum got his comeuppance

R.E92 · Post by **R.E92** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:28 am

firebobby wrote:
TitanTim wrote:All conjecture but it would make sense if the Citroen had been in the middle lane hadn't indicated as to why the Z4 thought the coast was clear and pulled out, the lane may have been clear

Tim.
I do a lot of driving in my job Tim and see plenty of pricks like this, they drive around in their own self importance cutting others up and normally get clean away from accidents they cause. This prize plum got his comeuppance

Agreed. That kind of driving is very common in those motorway situations. People skipping queues are often the reason the traffic is held up in the first place. I hope they lose their license.

It looks to me that the two right lanes were moving at a good speed, the Citroen wasn't driving any differently to the rest. Bad decision to move left into the empty lane but not at all his fault.

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