35i vs 35is

[pvr]

It seems to be possible

Would not mind that little project, about £1500 by the looks of it.

[john-e89]

Tom you're very welcome to pop over and try my 35is if you'd like to, I'm near Bakewell next to the Chatsworth estate. I also have to disagree with Maniac, personally I like the adaptive, I don't find it too hard, I use it a lot even on run flats, but as said it's personal choice, no right or wrong. If you need a daily and then a fun weekender the DCT is sublime, lots written about it on here. Purely for resale value I think the 35is is the better bet if you can stretch to one if the gearbox is not an issue, you can only get DCT in the 35is, if you want a manual you'll have to go 35i or a lower power E89. The paddles changed in year 2012 from the god awful push pull to the proper left down shift, right upshift, no offence meant to any early paddle shift owners. 35i and 35is are both twin turbo 6's, twin scroll single turbo is on the 4 pot cars only.

The stereo thing perplexes me also, why spend so much on a car then spec a crap system. I can't speak for the advanced system as I hav'nt heard it but the business is woeful IMO, I specced the 14 speaker pro and it's very good for the £825 extra, no complaints for the money, it lacks depth to the bass but a separate sub will sort that for little outlay, it's a good powerful system otherwise. Having said that it seems easy to put a good aftermarket system in so I would'nt let that put you off.

Most 35is's I've seen come with comfort pack, cruise, extended storage, lighting, wind deflector, but it gets a bit of a minefield as there are so many variations, based on what I've seen comfort pack seems fairly common but anything else is rare such as heated steering wheel, 14 speaker system etc.

There is lots more choice for the 35i auto, the manual version is thin on the ground and seem poorly specced for whatever reason.

Anyway give me a shout if I can help with anything.

[tomscott]

As usual great responce thanks so much all for the comments!

When I test drove the 35i it didn't have the adaptive sus but the M sport kit and it felt pretty good to me, nice and comfy in comfort and a bit harder in sport. I really like the DCT so going to go in that direction, manual would be nice but for the commute on the M60 clockwise with all the roadworks for half of it at the moment its a pain.

TBH My original budget was 14k as were looking to buy a house and I wanted to get into an E46 M3 but after test driving a few they are so old and finding a good one is impossible. The GF wasn't impressed so we've decided to go all out and get a much more modern car and my budget is around £23k max. I also think im looking at a 10 plate or below for that sort of money on a 35is so I think a 35i is probably where im at and from what ive seen the 35is is lovely but for the budget the 35i is probably the better car.

This is the car im looking at and the one I test drove:
http://www.redlinespecialistcars.co.uk/ ... 9107631719

But of corse when I tried to make a deal there is no movement.... not even 3% and I wanted 10 really. The usual we have 3 people interested in it... I dealt with the guy who my dad bought his porsche from and knew who I was but didnt seem to want to deal with me. The car is from Guernsey so im assuming they have some money in the car for import but is this good value being 5 years on an 11 plate? But good milage and spec apart from the audio system. But the body work isnt perfect a cat has been all over it so surface scratches needs a mop, the left wing mirror had been banged so needs repainting, needs a brake fluid service, the interior had an big abrasion on aluminum trim on the drivers side by the gear leaver, the arm rest in the centre had a couple of scratches which has taken the top off the leather in two places on the passenger side which I cant see being sorted without replacing the centre rest but they are where you would lean against it with your side so you cant see it really but still... Someone has caught their jeans on it I think. Also the right tweeter grill has been pressed inward so needs pushing out. All the wheels need a refurb, but good tyres and low milage. He said by the time they have sorted all the issues out there isnt any room in the car.

Thanks for the info on the Audio, I think I could live with it for a while but I would need to sort something out fairly sharpish. I will certainly PM you to see how you get on with your upgrade.

Unfortunately Nav is essential! Insurance isnt too bad for me and the GF £600 so thats fine. Just need to decide really but all the cars that have been for sale are still for sale, but the only one ive seen with red and grey. Me and my dad are going to have another look at it on Sunday so we will see if I can close a deal might be more receptive to him. Because its a sports car garage and my gf has a clio to trade he gave us a really s**t price for it and been offered £1500 more at another garage but as I say im commuting so need the car so cant really sell it privately not really sure what to do WBAC quoted us £1500 more than the garage when they come to see it and probably offer us less it will still be more than the garage.

[john-e89]

That's too much money for an 11 plate IMHO Tom, ok it's mega low miles but I think you'll lose out a lot come selling on time. For 23k you should get a 13 or 14 plate car which will have the proper left and right pull paddles rather than the awful push pull each side that that one has. 23k is a very healthy budget, hold out and keep looking, more choice with the DCT on the 35i so one will be along any time.

[R.E92]

You can swap the paddles over if you like, don't let that put you off!
It's a 15min job and from memory the paddles are between £100 and £200.

I don't mind the push/pull paddles, allows me to do up and down changes from either which is handy when cornering. Just depends what you are used to in previous cars.

[tomscott]

That's too much money for an 11 plate IMHO Tom, ok it's mega low miles but I think you'll lose out a lot come selling on time. For 23k you should get a 13 or 14 plate car which will have the proper left and right pull paddles rather than the awful push pull each side that that one has. 23k is a very healthy budget, hold out and keep looking, more choice with the DCT on the 35i so one will be along any time.

Thats what I thought too, but there is nothing on the market at the moment there are about 12 cars and this is the second cheapest. I thought 21k might not be a bad deal but he wont deal at 21k even for cash.

[tomscott]

You can swap the paddles over if you like, don't let that put you off!
It's a 15min job and from memory the paddles are between £100 and £200.

I don't mind the push/pull paddles, allows me to do up and down changes from either which is handy when cornering. Just depends what you are used to in previous cars.

This is my first auto, I actually like the push pull on bot sides but I prefer the look of the DCT paddles. Thanks for the info! £200 sounds a lot for paddles tho!

[KERMIT1970]

Hi Tom can't comment on the 35i,only had my 35is. Regarding the adaptive suspension it's a no brainier. My wife hated driving my old e86. But loved the 35is due to the AS, 2 cars in 1 ! Long journeys car is a pleasure to drive in comfort mode. Sports + car imo is a better & more fun than z4m. I'am sure you'll wait for the right car.

[john-e89]

You can swap the paddles over if you like, don't let that put you off!
It's a 15min job and from memory the paddles are between £100 and £200.

I don't mind the push/pull paddles, allows me to do up and down changes from either which is handy when cornering. Just depends what you are used to in previous cars.

Yes each to their own R.E92, sorry no offence intended.

Regarding the paddles, do you know where to isolate the airbag and how long to leave it unplugged before taking it off? 30mins is it?

[Maniac]

Tom, m sport non adaptive does not change in stiffness. This is what adaptive does. M sport stock is simply a spring and passive damper setup just like the e85/6.

Adaptive adds the normal/sport/sport plus stiffness to dampers.

[R.E92]

You can swap the paddles over if you like, don't let that put you off!
It's a 15min job and from memory the paddles are between £100 and £200.

I don't mind the push/pull paddles, allows me to do up and down changes from either which is handy when cornering. Just depends what you are used to in previous cars.

Yes each to their own R.E92, sorry no offence intended.

Regarding the paddles, do you know where to isolate the airbag and how long to leave it unplugged before taking it off? 30mins is it?

No offence taken, I'm not that delicate

This video shows the entire process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgnPs4RMUJk

I like the look of the new paddles but not enough to buy a set. Maybe if a set comes up on eBay super cheap one day...

[Z4M-2006]

I liked the push pull..

Mwans both hands didnt need to be on the wheel...


Where have you moved to Tom ?

[tomscott]

I liked the push pull..

Mwans both hands didnt need to be on the wheel...


Where have you moved to Tom ?

I actually thought the same! Also nice and easy for swmbo to work too

We are just renting at the moment because we weren't sure where we wanted to be. But currently living in-between Eccles and Monton. Eccles being a complete dump and Monton really lovely. So we go right not left out of the door

Managed to get a really lovely little house (rather than a flat) that is tucked out of the way so completely escapes the traffic and bustle which is nice importantly its a locked parking area with electric gates and CCTV. Its a new build, moved in the day it was finished, but the rent is more than a mortgage so want to get out of it really but not sure where to move. The problem is our tenancy runs out on the 24th Dec and neither of us will have finished our probation period by then so it will be after Christmas before we look to buy.

Really great location, couple of minutes from Patricroft station and takes 10 mins on the train to get into Manchester then just off the M60 to get up to Oldham for work as I've just started at the Trinity group who look after 150+ publications like the Mirror MEN L-Echo etc so its pretty good, rough start struggled to find a job but everything seems to be getting into order. Also M60 to the M6 and back up to Cumbria in an hour and a half so ideal really.

So the car is basically a Christmas present to ourselves for the stress of moving finding jobs and a bit for fun for the weekend. Plus I sold my M 2 years ago so serious serious withdrawal!!!

[tomscott]

Tom, m sport non adaptive does not change in stiffness. This is what adaptive does. M sport stock is simply a spring and passive damper setup just like the e85/6.

Adaptive adds the normal/sport/sport plus stiffness to dampers.

Thanks for the clarification Maniac! Takes a bit of time to get your head round all the options compared to the fairly sparse M spec.

[Z4M-2006]

"Monton Carlo" as its locally known...lol..


M60 is usually ok for commute ,although it does back up in spots at peak times..

Plenty to see and do within 30 mins of where you are..

Enjoy..