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is an M version ever going to come out?

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by ronk » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:24 pm

TitanTim wrote:-------research has shown 80% of BMW owners think their car is front wheel drive --------

I'm amazed at that!
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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by Obs-Com » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:41 pm

Z4M-2006 wrote:Interesting clip.....Shows the differences in the 2 cars...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQhVW3PIRhA
It's a shame the E89 driver can't drive around the corners as looks to me like the M can't match it. Noticably pulling away on acceleration - and looks great as well!
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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by TitanTim » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:45 pm

ronk wrote:
TitanTim wrote:-------research has shown 80% of BMW owners think their car is front wheel drive --------

I'm amazed at that!
Me too, but then,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAr6cHSNQaQ

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Does make you wonder :)

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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by Z4M-2006 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:01 pm

The M division will always make great cars....

Would it have made any difference if the E89 3 litre twin turbo cars where badged as an "M" ? I dunno,but i think BMW certainly missed a trick there.

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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by GuidoK » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:24 pm

ronk wrote:
TitanTim wrote:-------research has shown 80% of BMW owners think their car is front wheel drive --------

I'm amazed at that!
80% of the world's population is stupid as donkey anyhow, so I'm not amazed at all... :lol: :roll:
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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by Bing » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:59 pm

That's a bit unfair to donkeys IMO :D
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Post by RickRob » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:26 pm

After careful consideration I have decided that the answer to this question is NO, NO, NO, NO and NO.

This mean, of course, that anyone fortunate enough to be owning an E85 M is sitting on (in) a future classic that is going to be worth millions. (Owners of E86 Ms may be equally lucky financially, but they'll not owning such a great car.) :poke:

So there, that the end of it - let the offers roll in! :)
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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by john-e89 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:24 pm

. I think the problem with the E89 35i as a future classic is the Z4M, the E89 has no \\\M pedigree so will be less sought after :(

Tim.[/quote]

Mmm with respect I can't agree on that Tim. Not everyone wants an M and with such low build numbers, I'm guessing 400 max on the 35is by the time it's axed, straight 6, 340 BHP as stock, DCT as standard, smoother all round with an arguably much nicer interior and the folding hard top, I reckon it'll be a very sought after model like the M coupe in a few years and will make strong money. They're going to have plenty of followers and no problem selling a nice low mileage example.

As usual just IMO, be interested to hear anyone else's view on this unless it's too off topic.
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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by TitanTim » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:33 pm

john-e89 wrote:. I think the problem with the E89 35i as a future classic is the Z4M, the E89 has no \\\M pedigree so will be less sought after :(

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Mmm with respect I can't agree on that Tim. Not everyone wants an M and with such low build numbers, I'm guessing 400 max on the 35is by the time it's axed, straight 6, 340 BHP as stock, DCT as standard, smoother all round with an arguably much nicer interior and the folding hard top, I reckon it'll be a very sought after model like the M coupe in a few years and will make strong money. They're going to have plenty of followers and no problem selling a nice low mileage example.

As usual just IMO, be interested to hear anyone else's view on this unless it's too off topic.[/quote]

Put it this way John, look at the Z3, 12 months ago you could pick up a decent Z3M roady for 7K or so, today your looking 12K plus, the 3.0 which was nearest powerwise your looking at 4K or so. The M brand makes all the difference that I reckon the E89 35i will be passed by for the Z4M. I'm not knocking the E89 but it just doesn't have the M Kudus that would make it more sought after or desirable. Of course I could be talking tosh :rofl:

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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by Z4M-2006 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:38 pm

Both cars will be sought after as times go on...

Rare BMW's always are aren't they?

4 years ago Z4M's where not seen as desirable,they had dropped off in price... Some priced under 10k,gladly they have bounced back..

It's all ebb and flow and what's "in" at any given time..the motor trade is a fickle mistress so choose your times well when it's time to buy or bail.

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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by john-e89 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:44 pm

Fair point Tim, however I do think the 35is offers a lot more kit which will make it as least as desirable as an M in an admittedly niche market, but the low numbers will deal with that and keep prices for nice ones strong. If there were lots more of them then yes I doubt the same would count.

....and I could well be,and probably am, talking tosh too. :D
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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by TitanTim » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:52 pm

john-e89 wrote:Fair point Tim, however I do think the 35is offers a lot more kit which will make it as least as desirable as an M in an admittedly niche market, but the low numbers will deal with that and keep prices for nice ones strong. If there were lots more of them then yes I doubt the same would count.

....and I could well be,and probably am, talking tosh too. :D
Will be interesting to see in 10/15 years time, there is another factor which could help or hinder the E89 35i in its desirability or any E89 for that matter is its complexity i.e. the roof I wonder how much this will affect long term residuals with buyers giving it a wide birth as the cars get older, its not like a ragtop which are relatively easy and cheap to swap out.

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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by GuidoK » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:33 pm

The e85 ragtop is not cheap imho. :?
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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by ronk » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:38 pm

GuidoK wrote:The e85 ragtop is not cheap imho. :?
It not - but a chunk and a half cheaper than the folding tin top to sort out!
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Re: is an M version ever going to come out?

Post by Z4M-2006 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:38 pm

There is nothing more expensive on an E89 roof to fix than and E85...

It's more complex in its operation but similar in design .

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