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Non - RFT tyres

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Non - RFT tyres

Post by abeardo83 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:29 pm

I know it's a bit of a waste-post, but i'm doing it anyway... :poke:
Have replaced the front RE050A RFT tyres for Michelin PSS non-RFT...

...what a massive difference non-RFT tyres makes!!!! It's turned the car from a bone shaker to a decent cruiser!! Can't wait until the rear RE050's wear out now!!!

If anyone else is in two minds about it.... DO IT!!

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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by LeeZ4MR » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:54 pm

Agree its well worth doing :thumbsup: I have read its worth while to swap all four at the same time though and not mix run flats with normal tyres, I have wanted to change run flats on the BMW`s I have had for years but never seemed to get to the stage where all four needed changing at the same time but have been fortunate that all four needed doing on the 6 series and its made an incredible difference.

Whoever came up with the idea of run flats needs a kick in the teeth!
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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by Baza » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:10 pm

Couldn't agree more for me it was a change to Vredstein Ultrac Vorti's like night and day. I would seriously consider changing the rears not sure its a good idea to mix.
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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by jimbo1958 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:25 pm

Another PSS owner here.......agreed night and day over RFT.
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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by jmb » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:41 pm

I failed my MOT as the fronts had worn through on the inside edges :(

So I got four new tyres and took the plunge to non rft. I got Continentals. Much, much better. It's still firm (M-suspension and 19" wheels!) but the harshness over cats-eyes and surface changes is gone. I'd definitely recommend switching

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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by ChrisN53 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:45 pm

Where do you guys get your Michelin Pilot Super Sports from? And what do you do regarding a puncture; can of gunk or BMW mobility kit?

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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by abeardo83 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:02 pm

I got mine from Mytyres.co.uk. Not really thought about punctures yet.

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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by ChrisN53 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:14 pm

Have you got the link? Are Michelin PSS the same as Pilot Sport 3s?

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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by abeardo83 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:23 am

ChrisN53 wrote:Have you got the link? Are Michelin PSS the same as Pilot Sport 3s?
These are 19"tyres...

Fronts:
http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop. ... &weiter=42

Rears:
http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop. ... &weiter=20

They're a different tyre than the Pilot Sport 3

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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by KERMIT1970 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:03 am

Baza wrote:Couldn't agree more for me it was a change to Vredstein Ultrac Vorti's like night and day. I would seriously consider changing the rears not sure its a good idea to mix.
I ran run flats on the front & non rfts on the rear of our old 335d for a year without any problems what's so ever. Granted changing all would be better,but sometimes it's down to cost.
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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by abeardo83 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:48 am

Agreed - can't afford another £350 on rear tyres - especially as they've not been on the car for 6months yet.
I'd like to think that the traction control / VSA would assist in the management of differing front and rear tyres.

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Post by TitanTim » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:45 pm

I specced MPSS on the M135i and wished I'd gone for the no cost option runflats now. Runflats are fine so long as you have adaptive suspension fitted.

They were harsh when I had them on the Z4 but it didn't have the adaptive.

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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by R.E92 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:02 pm

I have adaptive on my Z4 and I still found the RFT unbearable. I do have 19" wheels so that makes it all a little worse. Even the MPSS with adaptive suspension is a little hard.

MPSS on an 18" wheel with adaptive suspension would be ideal.

I went for 265 rear profile and the increase in grip over the original RFT with a 255 profile is brilliant.

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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by KERMIT1970 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:21 pm

Tim you made the right decision speccing the Mss. Even with adaptive suspension the rfts are junk :(
Iam still torturing myself with the Bridgestone's ! It's only £620 for the Michelins but it's the principle only done 4k miles :(
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Re: Non - RFT tyres

Post by techathy » Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:52 pm

TitanTim wrote:I specced MPSS on the M135i and wished I'd gone for the no cost option runflats now. Runflats are fine so long as you have adaptive suspension fitted.

They were harsh when I had them on the Z4 but it didn't have the adaptive.
They're harsh with adaptive suspension & also the car loves to skip over anything vaguely bump shaped on the road.
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