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Surprised with falling E89 used values

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by Z4_35i » Wed May 04, 2016 9:04 pm

Interesting ...

Put our 35i into webuyanycar today and got a valuation of £13,255.00

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Post by stuartinzg » Wed May 04, 2016 9:40 pm

Wbac is rubbish for this type of car.
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Post by mr wilks » Wed May 04, 2016 10:15 pm

Z4_35i wrote:Interesting ...

Put our 35i into webuyanycar today and got a valuation of £13,255.00

2009 35i DCT
2nd owner, owned for last 4 years
46,100 miles
Sat Nav
Heated Seats
Black Sapphire with Red Leather Seats
296 Alloys, no cracks in 4 years :-)
Full service history at local independent

What you can't put into webuyanycar is

Latest 2016 maps for SatNav
Michelin Pilot Super Sports
Eibach Pro Kit, with Hunter wheel alignment and camber reduction
ESS Stage 2
Lux Angel Eyes

For your car without the above mods id say that was bang on WBAC target . they offer trade money so you would hope to get 10%/ 15% over their offer & that imo is where your car would be as a private sale :?
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Post by Angie4m » Wed May 04, 2016 10:44 pm

mr wilks wrote:
Z4_35i wrote:Interesting ...

Put our 35i into webuyanycar today and got a valuation of £13,255.00

2009 35i DCT
2nd owner, owned for last 4 years
46,100 miles
Sat Nav
Heated Seats
Black Sapphire with Red Leather Seats
296 Alloys, no cracks in 4 years :-)
Full service history at local independent

What you can't put into webuyanycar is

Latest 2016 maps for SatNav
Michelin Pilot Super Sports
Eibach Pro Kit, with Hunter wheel alignment and camber reduction
ESS Stage 2
Lux Angel Eyes

For your car without the above mods id say that was bang on WBAC target . they offer trade money so you would hope to get 10%/ 15% over their offer & that imo is where your car would be as a private sale :?
I say it's under value however WBAC are after small, low tax, 'fuel efficent' cars that can be punted on quickly and with good returns.

Cars like this will still offer good returns but not as much a polo for example. According to some of the figures I've seen your looking at 1k more trade for good condition with that millage and not taking any extras into consideration apart from the DTC.

WBAC is always somewhere to look to gauge a price of looking for a really quick sale, I just don't think people get their whole business model (I'm excluding you from that comment Mr Wilks) and that depending on the type of car you may not get the best value. Infact I bet you'd get a better offer from a BMW dealer assuming they've not got a lot of stock of convertibles as the weather gets better.
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Post by Sgreen » Wed May 04, 2016 11:36 pm

stuartinzg wrote:Wbac is rubbish for this type of car.
Any type of car! We have looked at a variety of cars with wbac when we have to sell them and every time they have insultingly off the mark.
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Post by mr wilks » Thu May 05, 2016 7:26 am

Sgreen wrote:
stuartinzg wrote:Wbac is rubbish for this type of car.
Any type of car! We have looked at a variety of cars with wbac when we have to sell them and every time they have insultingly off the mark.
You have to bear in mind why WBAC is in business , its not there to take cars off customers at their market value , they would need charitable status for that or be bankrupt in weeks :oops:
They source vehicles for the trade & want to pay trade money , i use them to get a value on a car which you could then expect to get 10% 15% or even 20% more for ( & a pal who works at Bowker BMW tells me they often do the same then offer £150 more to get the deal :wink: )
Id say over the years their online valuations pretty much reflect the current market :wink:
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Post by ronk » Thu May 05, 2016 9:20 am

mr wilks wrote:
Sgreen wrote:
stuartinzg wrote:Wbac is rubbish for this type of car.
Any type of car! We have looked at a variety of cars with wbac when we have to sell them and every time they have insultingly off the mark.
You have to bear in mind why WBAC is in business , its not there to take cars off customers at their market value , they would need charitable status for that or be bankrupt in weeks :oops:
They source vehicles for the trade & want to pay trade money , i use them to get a value on a car which you could then expect to get 10% 15% or even 20% more for ( & a pal who works at Bowker BMW tells me they often do the same then offer £150 more to get the deal :wink: )
Id say over the years their online valuations pretty much reflect the current market :wink:
I tend agree with that - their valuation of my wife's Audi was in line with the trade in value that BMW offered last July.
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Post by Mobeer » Thu May 05, 2016 8:16 pm

I was positively surprised by the offer from WBAC:

2009 23i, manual, 27k miles, sat nav, heated seats, service history

- WBAC offered £10,500 just now (I expect this would be haggled down a bit on the day)
- BMW dealership offered £8,500 trade-in about 8 months ago

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Post by mr wilks » Thu May 05, 2016 8:37 pm

Mobeer wrote:I was positively surprised by the offer from WBAC:

2009 23i, manual, 27k miles, sat nav, heated seats, service history

- WBAC offered £10,500 just now (I expect this would be haggled down a bit on the day)
- BMW dealership offered £8,500 trade-in about 8 months ago
Yea that's not bad , in my search i came across a good few 2009 2.3s around 40k between £10k & £11k
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Post by Z4_35i » Fri May 06, 2016 5:58 pm

I thought the WBAC price wasn't that bad in comparison to a trade price, as they expect the car to be used and not in a cosseted pristine condition as all our Z4's are :D .

We used them a couple of years ago to move on an old V8 Jeep Grand Cherokee we had as a runabout and tip car for 5 years, it only had a week's MOT, needed new tyres all round, battery was on it's last legs, plus had an ABS fault light, quite a few little dents and they still gave us the same price as the initial one quoted through their website. Much easier than trying to sell private as we weren't looking to trade.

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Post by mr wilks » Fri May 06, 2016 6:07 pm

Bearing in mind i started this post a little over 12 months ago there's been no slowing in the fall of 89s whatsoever :cry:
Glad i waited the year out as i think they've bottomed now & likely to rise from here :oops: :P
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Post by Yorkie Z » Fri May 06, 2016 6:22 pm

mr wilks wrote:Bearing in mind i started this post a little over 12 months ago there's been no slowing in the fall of 89s whatsoever :cry:
Glad i waited the year out as i think they've bottomed now & likely to rise from here :oops: :P
You keep telling yourself that Andy. They'll be giving them away free with every £100 spent at Tesco soon :poke: :rofl:
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Post by mr wilks » Sun May 08, 2016 3:04 pm

Now this does look worth all of the ask , , its the plum choice for me 3.0i(auto) 52k covered in good colour with sport seats & 296 19s (although desc says 17s :? ) for £10400k :o at a dealer so warrantied :o :o now that's £2k under any similar car ive seen :cry: i shoulda waited that bit longer :( http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... &logcode=p

or for those who have to have nav & has to be Msport then how about this 2.3i at £11700 on a 10 plate

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... &logcode=p
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Post by billz » Sun May 08, 2016 3:43 pm

We are looking at a so called upgrade to the E89 28i, 35i as preference but also possibly the 3.0i in a couple of months. Makes me wonder if we would not be better off keeping our 2008 3.0si with 50k on it.
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Post by Nictrix » Sun May 08, 2016 4:15 pm

mr wilks wrote:Now this does look worth all of the ask , , its the plum choice for me 3.0i(auto) 52k covered in good colour with sport seats & 296 19s (although desc says 17s :? ) for £10400k :o at a dealer so warrantied :o :o now that's £2k under any similar car ive seen :cry: i shoulda waited that bit longer :( http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... &logcode=p

or for those who have to have nav & has to be Msport then how about this 2.3i at £11700 on a 10 plate

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... &logcode=p
That 2nd one looks good for 73,000 miles, shame about the dent in the bonnet though :(
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