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Replaced my Runflats

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Replaced my Runflats

Post by donteatthat » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:03 pm

Hi Folks, so i took the leap and replaced all 4 run flat tyres on my 2.5 Z4 yesterday to normal reinforced tyres, i had 2 balding tyres and one puncture so thought just do it. Never thought i would really notice the different but wow, the ride is so much more forgiving.

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Anyway im a bit of a Sunday driver so take from that what you will but hope this helps.

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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by lux » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:05 pm

Glad you're happy with 'em....I like my fillings to rattle when I drive over a crisp packet!! :lol:
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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by obewan » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:16 pm

I like my fillings to rattle when I drive over a crisp packet!! :lol:
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Don't get it - it's a sports car, why convert it to an Austin Allegro (google may be required :) )
Each to their own I guess, glad you like them
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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by dr_john » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:33 pm

Are you talking about an E89? I'm not sure what a 2.5 z4 is.
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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by Nictrix » Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:55 pm

dr_john wrote:Are you talking about an E89? I'm not sure what a 2.5 z4 is.
Ours is a 2.5.
The 23i is a 2.5 litre engine
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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by thepits » Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:59 pm

dr_john wrote:Are you talking about an E89? I'm not sure what a 2.5 z4 is.
it's posted in the E89 Z4 discussion (2009+) forum, so one assumes he is :roll:
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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by dr_john » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:43 pm

Nictrix wrote:
dr_john wrote:Are you talking about an E89? I'm not sure what a 2.5 z4 is.
Ours is a 2.5.
The 23i is a 2.5 litre engine
Yes I know that, I used to have one.

It's just that most people would call it a 23i :)
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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by R.E92 » Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:09 pm

obewan wrote:
I like my fillings to rattle when I drive over a crisp packet!! :lol:
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Don't get it - it's a sports car, why convert it to an Austin Allegro (google may be required :) )
Each to their own I guess, glad you like them
When you drop runflats you don't lose any of the handing ability of the car. You just gain grip, comfort and less noise.

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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by obewan » Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm

When you drop runflats you don't lose any of the handing ability of the car. You just gain grip, comfort and less noise.
Sorry you've softened the suspension - handling must be affected
You gain comfort, I will agree with you there
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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by flybobbie » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:37 pm

I put on non-rft, the handling improved a lot, like not trying to wander into oncoming traffic!
Something else i did was to replace the rear std shocks.
Then the little traction control light stopped flashing on light gravel.
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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by sars » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:37 pm

obewan wrote:
When you drop runflats you don't lose any of the handing ability of the car. You just gain grip, comfort and less noise.
Sorry you've softened the suspension - handling must be affected
You gain comfort, I will agree with you there
Fitting non RFT's doesn't change the suspension, I mean how could it :poke:

Non RFT's have a less stiff sidewall (as in they won't keep the tyre shape without air) so yes your handling will be subtly different, however there is an easy fix....just increase the tyre pressures by a small amount until you are happy (not to much mind as you will get uneven tyre wear).

Also a car with 19" RFT's will handle differently than the same car with 17" RFT's
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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by obewan » Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:10 pm

Sars
The tyres are part of the suspension - in fact in F1 most of the suspension travel is in the tyre sidewall
So unless you do what you say and increase the pressure, there will be side wall flex laterally and vertically

Not knocking anybodies choices - let I said, each to their own
I'm happy with the RF's -
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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by sars » Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:11 pm

obewan wrote:Sars
The tyres are part of the suspension - in fact in F1 most of the suspension travel is in the tyre sidewall
So unless you do what you say and increase the pressure, there will be side wall flex laterally and vertically

Not knocking anybodies choices - let I said, each to their own
I'm happy with the RF's -
Okay I'm being semantic, but the tyres are not classified as part of the suspension system, but I know I'm not going to convince you......

suspension travel refers to how much the hub can move relative to the car, what you mean is how much the car can move relative to the ground, and yes in F1 tyre pressures are adjusted to improve handling and that's where I started
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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by ric19 » Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:30 pm

I understood that BMW tuned the suspension to take account of the run flats

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Re: Replaced my Runflats

Post by R.E92 » Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:54 pm

ric19 wrote:I understood that BMW tuned the suspension to take account of the run flats
I'm sure if that were the case the suspension would be softer. I can't imagine BMW testing the cars with runflat tyres and sports suspension and thinking it was suitable for road use!

I think that quote is something sales people use to make sure customers come back and pay them large sums of money for replacement runflat tyres.

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