Front reinforcement plate question. Is this normal?

NYZ4Jack · Post by **NYZ4Jack** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:22 am

Was changing the oil and never really noticed until this evening.

Seems like there are a few bolts/connecting points missing on the rear part of the front reinforcement plate. Is this normal? I don't see anything where it would connect to. Is there suppose to be a shield over the transmission pan?

I don't see anything on realoem website either.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this.

hopz121 · Post by **hopz121** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:30 am

Looks like you are missing an under tray mate, from memory there is two front under trays on the Z4.

DMC63 · Post by **DMC63** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:41 am

+1 Deffo a tray missing there. Breakers will have one.

NYZ4Jack · Post by **NYZ4Jack** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:16 pm

anyone have a part # or a diagram?

I cant seem to find anything online or on realoem.

Thanks in advance!

Scooba_Steve · Post by **Scooba_Steve** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:59 pm

You weren't looking hard enough grasshopper

part 8

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpar ... Id=51_4963

Though that's for manual, will be different if auto.

Yorkie Z · Post by **Yorkie Z** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:10 pm

Scooba_Steve wrote:You weren't looking hard enough grasshopper part 8

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpar ... Id=51_4963

Though that's for manual, will be different if auto.

NYZ4Jack · Post by **NYZ4Jack** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:22 am

Thank you!!

Scooba_Steve wrote:You weren't looking hard enough grasshopper part 8

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpar ... Id=51_4963

Though that's for manual, will be different if auto.

Steve84N · Post by **Steve84N** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:33 am

It's the structural one you're missing too... You might need a new set of bolts for it, strictly speaking they are one time use as they are 50nm + 90 degrees.

NYZ4Jack · Post by **NYZ4Jack** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:52 am

What are you referring to?

Steve84N wrote:It's the structural one you're missing too... You might need a new set of bolts for it, strictly speaking they are one time use as they are 50nm + 90 degrees.

NYZ4Jack · Post by **NYZ4Jack** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:54 am

So apparently when I put 2005 e85 3.0i, automatic transmission, it's greyed out. And according to ECS the airduct is only for manual. So does that mean the autotranny's dont have anything there? I wish someone here has a auto they can take a pic of their undercarriage for us....

Yorkie Z wrote:
Scooba_Steve wrote:You weren't looking hard enough grasshopper part 8

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpar ... Id=51_4963

Though that's for manual, will be different if auto.

GuidoK · Post by **GuidoK** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:28 am

This plate was ONLY fitted on FACELIFT z4's, with manual ONLY.
So as long as we dont know what exact car the TS has, there's NO telling if he actually misses something or not!

So if you have a facelift manual: you're missing the plate
If you have a pre-facelift manual: you're not missing anything but you could fit the plate (I've refitted it

)
If you have an automatic: you're not missing anything and you probably cant fit the plate.

Does the plate do anything? probably not much, its a pretty small plate and certainly doesnt fill/shield the complete cavity.
It's also NOT a reinforcement plate, it has no structural merit.
Its clearly some kind of afterthought. The mounting holes are there because it is an e46 part and the e46 has a complete plastic masking tray (for the transmission) mounted to it but that apparently doesnt fit the e85, so they bodged this plate somewhere down the line.

This is how it looks like with the plate (albeit on a z4m) and you can see that it hardly masks anything; it is a very small plate:

To fit the plate you need (apart from the plate) a small bracket, 4 clipnuts and the corresponding bolts.

Scooba_Steve · Post by **Scooba_Steve** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:31 am

That seems really odd, trays everywhere else, why would they leave it off..

Scooba_Steve · Post by **Scooba_Steve** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:32 am

NYZ4Jack wrote: Thank you!!

Scooba_Steve wrote:You weren't looking hard enough grasshopper part 8

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpar ... Id=51_4963

Though that's for manual, will be different if auto.

Not that it's that obvious. But now you have a bigger can of worms! Does look really odd with it not there.

VRSteve · Post by **VRSteve** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:57 am

NYZ4Jack wrote:What are you referring to?

Steve84N wrote:It's the structural one you're missing too... You might need a new set of bolts for it, strictly speaking they are one time use as they are 50nm + 90 degrees.

Its not the structural one, and you don't need extra bolts.

NYZ4Jack · Post by **NYZ4Jack** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:54 pm

Thank you for the detailed answer and your pic. I feel much better now.
If I could vote for best answer, I vote for yours. If you were nearby, I'd buy you a round or two!

cheers mate

GuidoK wrote:This plate was ONLY fitted on FACELIFT z4's, with manual ONLY.
So as long as we dont know what exact car the TS has, there's NO telling if he actually misses something or not!

So if you have a facelift manual: you're missing the plate
If you have a pre-facelift manual: you're not missing anything but you could fit the plate (I've refitted it )
If you have an automatic: you're not missing anything and you probably cant fit the plate.

Does the plate do anything? probably not much, its a pretty small plate and certainly doesnt fill/shield the complete cavity.
It's also NOT a reinforcement plate, it has no structural merit.
Its clearly some kind of afterthought. The mounting holes are there because it is an e46 part and the e46 has a complete plastic masking tray (for the transmission) mounted to it but that apparently doesnt fit the e85, so they bodged this plate somewhere down the line.

This is how it looks like with the plate (albeit on a z4m) and you can see that it hardly masks anything; it is a very small plate:

To fit the plate you need (apart from the plate) a small bracket, 4 clipnuts and the corresponding bolts.

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